Rodney’s ghost haunts Guyana

By Raffique Shah
February 24, 2016

Raffique ShahThe findings of a Commission of Inquiry into the murder of Guyanese intellectual and political activist Dr Walter Rodney, 36 years ago, are an indictment not only against the Forbes Burnham dictatorship that ruled Guyana for 21 horrible years, but also other Caricom governments and countries that never condemned Burnham’s atrocities.

To alert our insular minds to occurrences other than Trinidad and Tobago’s economic woes and its runaway crime, the CoI, which comprised three eminent Caribbean jurists (Barbados’ Richard Cheltenham, T&T’s Seenath Jairam and Jamaica’s Jacqueline Samuels-Brown), after listening to evidence from scores of witnesses, concluded that the Burnham Government had been directly involved in Rodney’s assassination by a bomb on June 13, 1980.

More damning, the report implicated Guyana’s Police Service and Defence Force in the plot to kill Rodney, and afterwards to suppress investigations, destroy evidence and ex-filtrate the assassin, soldier Gregory Smith, and his family to French Guiana on a military aircraft.

Now, all that I have written thus far may seem alien to those old enough to remember Burnham and Rodney, and stranger than fiction to generations that know nothing of that period in our history or the personae in a real-life-and-death drama that stained Guyana with buckets of blood.

I make no apologies for devoting a column to it.

Rodney was a Guyanese patriot, the consummate Caribbean Man, and a leader who, had he lived, might have healed the racial divide that has haunted Guyana’s politics for much longer than it has T&T’s.

His book How Europe Underdeveloped Africa is a classic in colonial and post-colonial politics and economics.

And his innovative method of imparting knowledge and stimulating the minds of the masses by leaving UWI’s Mona campus where he lectured to “ground with the brothers” in urban Kingston in 1968, which led to him being expelled from Jamaica, was one spark that helped ignite black consciousness across the Caribbean, leading to the events of 1970.

Such a man could not be allowed to live, not in Guyana where Burnham, who was installed in power in 1964 by the British and United States governments through rigged elections (I shall direct doubters to hard evidence if they wish), and whose political life depended on keeping Indo- and Afro-Guyanese at each other’s throats.

So Rodney, who attracted support across the race-divide, had to die. And Burnham thought nothing of killing him, something we, Walter’s friends, knew all along.

Why I indict other Caricom governments in Burnham’s orgy of persecution and murder of those who dared to oppose him is because they all knew he was a tyrant, even complicit in mass murder, but they tolerated his excesses, even encouraged them.

For those who may not remember or do not know, Rodney’s murder in 1980 was not an isolated incident.

In 1978, Guyana’s Burnhamesque notoriety propelled that cussed country into world headlines when Jim Jones, a maniac to whom Burnham had given a huge tract of land in the forested interior to establish “Jonestown”, murdered several high-profiled US citizens who had visited the commune.

Jones then led 918 members of his People’s Temple, among them 300 children, into the biggest collective suicide pact ever, by administering cyanide-laced Kool Aid.

The world was in shock. Burnham laughed. His Caricom colleagues, among them Dr Eric Williams, Michael Manley (Jamaica) and Errol Barrow (Barbados), did not even condemn the dictator for harbouring a mass murderer.

In fact, Dr Williams would continue to lend Burnham money, more than a billion dollars, that remains unpaid to this day.

But Burnham’s atrocities were far from finished.

There were random killings of opponents to his People’s National Congress government for which no one was arrested and charged.

Then in July 1979, another American criminal, this one called himself Rabbi Washington, who Burnham had allowed to establish the dubious House of Israel in Georgetown, pounced upon a WPA (Rodney’s party) anti-government demonstration.

The savages, who had been used by Burnham to attack strikers and political opponents, stabbed to death Jesuit Father Bernard Darke, a lecturer and writer with the Catholic Standard, who was covering the march.

After Burnham died in office in 1985, his successor, Desmond Hoyte, did authorise that some of the criminals who had acted on Burnham’s behalf, be charged with various offences. I believe a few of them were tried and jailed.

Of all Burnham’s sins, though, the victim that continues to haunt Guyana’s politics is Rodney.

His ghost stalks the incumbent government: President David Granger leads a coalition that includes the PNC and ironically, the WPA.

Also, Granger is a retired brigadier, so he must have been a junior officer in 1980 when Sergeant Smith orchestrated Rodney’s death. Did he know of the plot?

And what would Rodney make of his one-time comrades in the WPA being in alliance in government with Burnham’s PNC?

I wish I could speak with Rodney’s ghost on these and other matters.

83 Responses to “Rodney’s ghost haunts Guyana”


  • Guyana is a study in nationhood when race trumps reason. Guyana is endowed with natural resource so as to be an economic powerhouse. Instead it is the second poorest Caribbean nation after Haiti. Jagan and Janet did not help the Guyanese people by wanting to introduce communism at a time when the Americans and British were dead set against such ideology. By default Burnham arose as the leader of a nation seeking to find itself by unleashing the police and army on the Indian population. This lead to a tremendous brain drain and exodus from this South American nation. Today despite so many years Guyana have never fully recovered from Burnham ideology. Walter Rodney and anyone who challenged Burnham was placed in a casket.

  • “…By default Burnam arose as the leader of a nation seeking to find itself by unleasing the police and army on the Indian Population.” Mamoo LIES LIES LIES!

    This is why african minds must be wrestled away from Indian accounts of history in T&T & Guyana…Forbes Burnam and Cheddi Jagan, were members of the SAME political party.Cheddi Jagan was a Hindu…..A Hindu who became Guyana’s first Prime Minister, even though African slaves and christianity dominated that entire region centuries before Hindus & Indians arrived….how in the HELL could the first Prime Minister after colonialism be an Indian & a Hindu??As many now know, the tenets of ‘Hinduism’ do not favour well on African people….INEQUALITY is the bedrock of he belief system….INEQUALITY based on skin colour & facial features….SO…..Racism as government policy STARTED under Cheddi Jagan….coincidentally The then U.S. & British politicians were against Russia & communism in Guyana & THEY (U.S. & British) cia & mi5 DELIBERATEY covertly started the ethnic war (not tensions) in Guyana. These governments have since declassified the info and released it years ago….THEY started the ethnic war between africans & indians in Guyanana. Now, Forbes Burnham was a dictator but he was NOT a racist! He did NOT victimize INDIAN people & he did have a noble economic vision for Guyana. Burnham wanted to make Guyana’s economy like that of Cuba….COMPLETELY dependent on ITSELF as Guyana is rich with natural resources BUTTTTTTTTTT he undemocratically did it efwn though many in the society did not want to….see how T&T has become destructiveky dependent on US imports see how allll the T&T money hemorrhaging to the U?S and china?? This was what Burnham wanted to innoculate guyana from BUTTTTTTTTTTTT ‘democracy’ means that the right thing cannot be done if the majority wants the wrong thing….Also, while officially Guyana was banning imports the Indian Guyanese villages & areas that bordered Brazil (not a coincidence) became extremely wealthy by illegally importing goods from brazil….Burnham, Knew & did nothing….Burnham’s African confidents BEGGED him to take this reality into account and allow African areas some ‘relief’ also with regard to imports & of course he refused…So Indian guyanese became wealthy under Burnham….those indian guyanese shipping magnates that are around today have their roots in that time period.The Indian politics in Guyana is very similar to T&T…..Indian politicians have historically been rabidly racist and promoting violence & hatred but at the same time manufacturing claims of rape, murder & racism from Africans…tKe Forbes Burnham’s rule….with all the racism claims against Burnham….don’t you find it strange that an African Intellectual is the only murder they can claim Burnham did?? Why not give names of Indians who were murdered under Burnham?? It is a shameless, rabis hate mongering type of politics that emanates out of guyanese Indian politics as well as infecting T&T…many africans don’t even realize that some of the obnoxious racist callers on the airwaves are guyanese….there are many guyanese born Indians who occupy halls of power in T&T…many of them are known haters of african people and yet they seamlessly slip into T&T….A journList in canada noted that when the U.N.C & C.O.P. had meetings in Canada 35% to 55% were guyanese Indians….why?? Coulsd you imagine PNM having other caribbean africans involved i the party?? That would be ludicrous! ….Raffique Shah says that Burnham’s 21 years of rule were ‘horrible’….what about Bharat Jagdeo’s 23 years of rule? Which is RECENT history?? Blatant rCist oppression of african people….Raff….was 23 years of BharT Jagdeo also ‘Hkrrible’…Imagine Indian writers in Guyana pointed out in Newspapers that when Burnham was in office, it was AFRICANS who openly criticized & protested against him…..same damn thing in T&T….BUTTTTTTTTTT The indian community nefer reciprocates….The same Indian writer Freddie Kissoon, a newspaper columnist and lecturer at the University Of Guyana said that corruption was NEVER as it was under the PPP government under Jagdeo that just demitted office!…Imagine that an Indian intellectual who PPP supporters and the general Hi du Indian community used to throw faeces and urine at his house and on his person, admitted publicly that the treatment of african Guyanese and the society as whole by the PPP government that ruled Guyana from 1992-2015, was UNPRECEDENTED!….Roger Khan, a Drug DeLer who oversaw a hit squad in Guyana FOR the PPP government used to murder African guyanese youth & political activists….this is within he last decade….not 40 years ago…..did raff talk about THAT??….Roger Khan was shielded by a PPP government minister with official diplomatic power and allowed him (roger khan) to import SPY equipment from the U.S. that is only legally solf from Government to government….all of this to oppress and murder africans….Is there any FACTUAL/TRUTHFUL accounts of this in T&T or Guyana against Indians or Indian politicians?? No!…but the danger with Indians & politics is that they are willing as a group to literally fabricTe horrible realities to justify what they INTEND to do anyway…i.e. Indian societies are RACIST & OPRESIVE because of their ancient racist belief system, and they have no intention of abandoning this soooo they fabricate and spin lies about african people to VALIDATE their behViour. Have you listened to the news?? Uppercastess are protesting affirmative action under the ruse that it is oppressive against them?? This is the type of warped reasoning that emanates from the caste hindu mind…..sooo any attempt to address the CHASM of inequalities in the society albeit with meager political offerings is to thwm INEQUALITY. …you cannot build any cohesive society with pwople who think like THAT! And T&T is littered with them!….i wish the pnm africans woukd digest this hard truth!.Kumbaya will not work!! If the cause of africans is not advanced while pnm is in power, the african community will literally be crushed the next time the Indian Hindu political party enters office! I.e. no voice in the media…no presence in the media…….and they won’t leave!
    http://www.ambedkar.org/ambcd/39A.Untouchables%20who%20were%20they_why%20they%20became%20PART%20I.htm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM85zVt6xCU

    • Wismar Massacre

      “The massacre of Indo-Guyanese began at Wismar and lasted for over 38 hours, beginning from Sunday May 24th and ending on Tuesday May 26, 1964. In the 38 hours of brutality, barbarism, and savagery on some 2000 Indo-Guyanese living in villages of Wismar and Christianburg, some 18000 Afro-Guyanese armed with cutlasses, wooden poles, gasoline bombs and guns burnt and destroyed over 230 Indo-Guyanese homes and businesses. Indo-Guyanese who thought they could find shelter in their own homes were confronted and beaten by large mobs of Afro-Guyanese screaming “kill de coolies” as their homes were burnt to the ground. One family whose home was burnt was confronted by a large mob who beat the wife unconscious, repeatedly stabbing the husband and then continuing to kick and molest two smaller children. This occurrence was by no means isolated. Some families who managed to escape from the villages into the nearby forest were also hunted down like animals.”

      However, their chances of survival were much better in the forest than in the villages. In addition to the mass burning and looting which resulted in over 1500 Indo-Guyanese becoming homeless, and the indiscriminate beating of Indo-Guyanese men, women, and children, 8 women were raped including two girls. Some of the women were repeatedly raped as the marauding band took turns on Indo-Guyanese women victims. This figure may even be higher since Guyanese women who were victims of rape seldom come forward and admit to such a heinous crime due to the shame associated with it. Once man was also burnt alive. Another, Mr. Ramjattan, a supporter of the PPP was found decapitated.

      Injuries were in the hundreds, ranging from gunshot wounds, knife wounds, burns, broken bones, and mutilated bodies. One Indo-Guyanese man had both his legs and feet broken. An employee from the Demarara Bauxite Company said: “The Indians never had a chance”. A Black woman showing no remorse said: “De ga wa dem deserve” (They coolies get what they deserved).
      The evacuation of Indo-Guyanese from the massacre sites at Wismar and Christainburg did not take place until the evening of May 25th.

      Two river steamers were commissioned to take the first batch of 1300 Indo-Guyanese refugees to Georgetown where they were booed, jeered, and pelted with bricks by Blacks as they arrived. A Red Cross worker said of the survivors: “Few wept, but the hundreds of children appeared terrified and frightened.”

      Alyssa the racist wrote “Indian politicians have historically been rabidly racist and promoting violence & hatred but at the same time manufacturing claims of rape, murder & racism from Africans…tKe Forbes Burnham’s rule….with all the racism claims against Burnham….”

      It is hard to image anyone defending Forbes Burnham, but it clearly shows how the mind of a Standard 3 educated person functions. As for Indian racist politicians, I think you are wrong on that count, in fact Indian politicians in Guyana try to hide the racism perpetuated on the Indo population in Guyana by your buddy Mr. Burnham.

      The Wismar massacre was carefully covered up the commission of inquiry that painted a different picture of the extend of racism in Guyana against the indo population. This we know to be incorrect because of independent reports. Jagan did not make a big fuss over it because we all know the Africana police and military did nothing to stop it.

      During the reign of Mr. Burnham over 300,000 Indo Guyanese fled Guyana. Many of them uprooted, I remember meeting an entire community of 38 families who fled and came to live in North America. Unlike Alyssa I met and spoke to people, there stories I will share. One man show me that bullet wound he had in his hand. He was 4 years old when the racist came and attack his family. His mother grabbed him manage to save his life by covering him with her body and a blanket. She was killed. His grandmother raise him. Then there was another elderly Guyanese man who told me they had to patrol in the night to secure their village as criminals came late in night. One lady ran and jumped in a cesspit, she survive but could not marry anyone because of experience.

      These are first hand accounts and not the fictional ideas that Alyssa is perpetuating on this board.

  • “T&T’s Own Seenath Jairam”…
    Mr. Shah…Seenath Jairam, the recent past President Of The Law Association, is a BORN & BRED Guyanese.

    Also, Mr. Shah…did Caricom ever condemn Bharat Jagdeo for the 23 years he & his PPP party was in power? They just demitted office less than a year ago…is Mr. Shah going to dedicate a column to all the murder & atrocities that JUST ended?? This is why indian accounts of history in the caribbean cannot wholly be relied upon….Raffique Shah is careful no4 to openly say i4 but he is painti g a picture that African guyanese politics is solely to blame for guyana’s problem or even the root cause….FACT: Walter Rodney was a pan-africanisr for african history and HE was exiled & supposedly assassinated by the ‘african’ burnham government…see the difference….under burnham African people are the only victims that could be pointed out that were killed….but under Indian Hindu government PPP & Cheddi Jagan…..Indian Hindu nationalistz were u touchable….nothing to do with politics….RACE was 4he determining factor….Janet Jagan was a known murderer….African Guyanese were deathly afr7ad of her during cheddi’s reign…..Mr. Shah…how come you do not speak about THAT….Janet was implicated in the murder…the massacre of an up and coming influe tion portugese family…they were outspoken against Cheddi & Janet…..ASK African Guyanese about THAT…anybody over 50 or more could tell you about Janet Jagan paintint her face black, disguising herself in common attire, alont with and oeadint thugs to terrorise dissenting voices…she was extremely racist and hateful of africans…..and she was white….this smashes to pieces the idea that religion somehow erases eth ic/racial buas…Janet Jagan was jewish but also a racist white woman….she fomented the ethnic divide in Guyana and sided unashamedly with Indians…. (straitht hair coalition)….how come honest raff doesn’t mwntion this??
    Also, notice a recuring theme with Raffique shah is thT somehow it is solely the politics and politicians who create ethnic problems amongst Indians & africans ….LIE!…..The Indian belief system is racist and hatwful of African people/facial features/dark skin….ANYWHERE there is an indian soiety on planet earth…..african people (dark skinned)will have problems…..although the racist ideolocgy is rooted i Hinduism….since back in India, this racist ideology ‘migrated’ to other faiths i.e. Islam, sikh, christianity…..so Indian society as a whole is extremely racist!

    http://www.amazon.com/Death-Guru-Remarkable-Story-Search/dp/0890814341

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRmkJh4P4bg

    • “This is why indian accounts of history in the caribbean cannot wholly be relied upon.”

      Alyssa, you are a masterpiece of understanding the Hindu mind. I concur with Everything.I have always maintained that the highest consciousness the African in Africa and the Caribbean can attain is the realization of the eternal enmity between the Hindu and the African. The mind of the hindu is saturated and corrupted with a viscious caste colour complex that has no cure. The African that does not understand this is doomed. Rodney, with all his consciousness, never understood this fundamental principle of African awareness when he allied himself with Hindu/Indos to overthrow an African head of state. We did not see the Indo intellectuals of the WPA reciprocating during the reign of terror of Jagdeo. The African has no greater enemy than the Hindu. You made Another excellent Point that Hinduism has infested the Indian mind to the extent that even Muslims like Shah are infected.Look at a pure black lke Kangal who provides proof of the disease of Hinduism when examining this dalit’s own racial and ethnic self-hate under the banner of HInduism. Each sentence you have written is made of classical high conscious stuff. But you touched on a very very important Point that I quote above about INdos Writing history of the Caribbean. I never read their stuff with any credibility, smply because they have played no role and have no history anywhere in the Caribbean or the entire western hemisphere. They are not even spectators. As a people they are totally absent. What history do they have to write. The closest to historical Writings Indos/Hindus can approximate is cane field, swamp indentureship on a village level. IN a Caribbean ( and Western Hemisphere) context, they are totally absent from the pages of Name (required) history. The African that give the minutest credence to what these people write should face an Idi Amin firing squad.No history the Indo/Hindu writes to be accepted by the African. We are the history makers and writers not them. In this region they have never made any history, and they could never write reliable narrative.
      We notice that Ramond Ramchiritar is having rectal diarreah trying to engage African history and Culture and he has a Canboulay complex. Kevil Baldeosingh is another amateur attempting the same having problems wiht the African presence Before Columbus. I personally don’t understand what allof these African people business have ot do with Hindu people and their village indentureship. AS for Shah, I submit that you are on the right path regarding the racist contamination of hinduism on the Muslim mind. We know the pestilence of the Ramcharitars, but it is sad when it comes to the Shahs.

      • Thank you awo,
        I wouldn’t say Shah is caste minded, BUTTTTTTT like most Indians, Shah’s ‘honesty’ & ‘Telling it like it is’ falls short….i.e. Although he is much more open & honest about issues of racism & politics, he still holds back and always has a political spin to it…not on behalf of UNC or an indian political party, but on behalf of the indian community & his own political legacy! e.g. Shah talks about badhase sagan maharaj, the first indian political leader in T&T, who idians wanted to become Prime Minister of T&T instead of DR. Eric Williams…Shah exposed in an article where Bhadase Maharaj ordered the murder of an indian faamily(burned alive at home,) in order to start a racial war by blaming PNM and africans to solidify indian voters….he exposes how bhadase used to call africans ‘Nigger’ openly at his political rallies in front of his typically self hating african bodyguards/henchmen…same thing with Panday…he exposes the race baiting and racist intentions of panday also BUTTTTTTTTTTTT they all contain political spjns i.e. that the ‘one’ indian leader ‘pushes’ the racism and not the majority of Indians LIE! Or that even though he could never pin point or speciry where the PNM or African leaders or even the african community does similar or the same things he spins that basically the same or similar exists in PNM or african leadears/community LIE!…These are the biggest lies of all…it isn’t panday or bhadase alone…IT IS THE COMMUNITY…IT IS THE RELIGION..THE CULTURE…Indian society is extremely racist i.e. hateful and scornful of African people!…in various degress…some more scornful than hateful….some just scornful…MANY scornful AND Hateful..BUTTTTTTTTTTTT shah and vast majority of Indians CANNOT admit this simple, hard truth BECAUUUUSSSEEE it wouod hurt indian political, economic and social interests! As well as ‘face’…i.e. The Indian community propgates, similarly to what some europeans perpetuate in the U.S. that “ALL o ‘we’ ” equally racist or ‘sshare blame’ for the racism i society LIE!!..Shah is no fool..and no spring chicken
        either! Do you think shah doesn’t know that ‘Hinduism’ is racist? How come he doesn’t factor THAT in when making cobtributions?? BECAUUUUSSSEEE it would cast a shadow on the Entire community and how they behave…but if it is the truth and shah ‘tells it like it is’ why not say so?? U like African people who hate themselves and gladly betray the group…Indians have a public realtions approach to their community i.e. their IMAGE…so it is acceptable to point at one or two indians and say “yeah THEY are racist” BUTTTTTTTTTT The group’s (community) is shielded from strIght criticism…as i said in prefious posts, i am WILLING to believe any indian who says THEY aren’t raciat BUTTTTTTTTTT ANY Indian that says they are UNAWARE of or DENY, RAMPANT, WIDESPREAD scorn & hatred (Racism) for Africans BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY LOOK across
        their eth ic group.is either ignorant or a LIAR!….the latter is in my experience the case! Prove me wrong? Go and ask any Hindus in T&T if their religion is discriminatory to dark skin…..listen and watch the lies flow…ask them if they have a problem with their daughter or son Marrying a Dark skinned African & making dark skinned, Arican mixed grandchildren and WHY….listen and
        watch the lies flow…..BUTTTTTTTTTTTT ‘WE’ Africans are also Liars in this regard…WE collaborate these lies in song and political mantras…WE help hide these ugly realities to our own detriment (GOD BLESS CRO CRO)
        I posted Dr Velu Mallai & his lectures about Hinduism & Racism in INDIA…He is an untouchabke and he Tells African Americans that with regards to Hinduism & Racism,….THEY WILL LIE TO YOU! BUTTTTTTTTTT Devant Maharaj & Sat Maharaj and other Hindus & Indians woukd have you believe that they are innocent, loving community but PNM & African people started & perpetuate racism….As for Racist Ramcharitar. ..digest the Hate & Scorn…This is a common method in which Indians EXPRESS their hatred for Africans,..by deceitfully twisting history & current events…attacking african history (based on colonial accounts 🙂 )
        Question….have any of you heard ANY indian or indian group denounce Racist Ramcharitar?? Any of you?? Nooooooo, they LOVE his articles….do you know what eose? He gets to post articles on the magazine that the entire cRubbean & foreigners visiting T&T & the caribbean read (Caribbean Beat)…i remember reading on the plane where he wrote his “observations” (dominica if i recall) and he wrote if i remember correctly,”The rastaman going to beg for work for the chinese construction company”…see?? On Caribbean Airlines (T&T’s company)…Also, he peddled the lie that the steelpan came from the Tassa…Racist Ramcharitar is, with all his pretentious attempts to seem high & mighty…VERY TYPICAL…did you know that he was birn and raised ‘Hindu’?? According to an interview he gave with the ownner of Gayelle (he bullied them by claiming their station has ‘an agenda’ to promote onlt african trini as culture…see how thzt tactic works??) Anyway i saw & heard him say(unless he wrote it elsewhere) that he chose to ‘convert’ to Catholicism at 13, while at Presentation Chaguanas, because…get this…he found it to be ‘Morally Ambiguous’….LOL…which is interesting, because he doesn’t seem to factor THAT truth into his ethno-political FABLES! …’Hinduism’ is not the true name of the belief system that Indians practide…it is an ignorant name given by the Arabs who invaded india…the arabs classified ALL the people whom they met whe they invaded that resided by the river Sind as “SIND-US” i.e. the people living by the river SIND…BUTTTTTTTTTTTT two things
        (1)The people were not all of the same faith…the arabs ignorzntly lumped them together as one faith & peoole
        (2) The Arabs, becUse of their alphabet could not pronounce the letter “S” so instead of saying SIND-US they pronounced them with the closest letter to “S” for them, which was “H” so they pronounced them as “HIND-US” which means the people of the (single) faith who reside by the river Sind…this is of course inaccurate…The belief system that did dominate the others (forcefully) that the arabs believed represented all the people was called either BRAHMANISM or VARNA-SHRAMA-DHARMA..i.e, “BRAHMA” is the name given the creator & originator in their belief system & “BRAHMAN/BRAHMIN” is the supposed genetic descendents,legal/spiritual representatives & ‘most superior’ humans (genetically & spiritually) therefore BRAHMAN-ISM defines their faith i.e. Worship & accept inferior status to Brahmans/Brahmins OR VarnaShramaDharma
        “VARNA” Literally means COLOUR…or RACE (Based on Colour) “DHARMA” is a CORE concept in this faith..it refers to a ‘divine’ duty and/or Jobs that BRAHMA allocated to different people BASED on their VARNA (skin colour) and VARNA is determined By KARMA, which is the resulting energy from a previous life/lives…see?? All inter-related band based on skin colour/facial feature prejudice! Take for example “The Maha Sabha”…as people refer to it…The entire name is The SANATAN-DHARMA Maha Sabha…”Maha Sabha” is an organization in India that was brought to T&T by Katherine Kumar’s Father!. an Immigrant from India named Ranjit Kumar…he was a policeman & engineer in India.. he migrated AFTER the indentureship
        period..20’s or 30’s…he is who started playing indian bollywood movies in T&T and also The first case of opendly inciting his ethnic group to VOTE CASTEE “Apphan Jaat”…people mistakenly say vote race, but it is vote caste, which has the same connotation but exposes the religious foundation for the call…Anyway, Sanatan-Dharma is a reference to the belief system that the Maha sabha organization represents! There is NO belief system called “Hinduism”…BUTTTTTTTTTTTT as per Racist Ramcharitar’s claim that ‘Hinduism’ is or he found it to be ‘Morally Ambiguous’…unlike other religions ‘Hinduism’.is a large body of practices that have SEVERAL rather than a single book or texts to follow…The Bhagavad Gita is a central one but still ONE of them,there are the Upanishads the Vedas (scriptures etc) BUTTTTTTTTTTTT make NO MISTAKE there is NONE in that belief system that do not follow or rever the MANU SMIRTI which IS…THE LEGAL TEXT or ‘commandments’ or codified values of those in that faith!
        Soooo technically, ‘Hindus’ could take a wide variety of ‘positions’ on ‘morality’ which is SUB-Jective by the way i.e. ‘Morality’ as is ignorantly used in T&T politics as if referring to a specific code that everybody regardless of belief system follows (LIE)…does NOT EXIST!…it is a SWEET,SAVOURY,SUCCULENT (POLITICAL) LIE! and a DANGEROUS one! ‘Hindus’ or more accurately Brahminists or even more acdurately the VarnaShramaDharma-ists DO NOT…i repeat DO NOT have the same moral & ethical coee as Christians or Islamicists/Muslims….i am not even going to say which is good or bad… BUTTTTTTTTTT they are NOT compatible or along the same moral code…

        • Alyssa, for a third standard educated person, your knowledge of the Indian continent, its history and specifically the hindu religion is vast and thoroughly comprehensive. You have opened our eyes so much with truths and perspective of the Indian, that to deny the reality of it, is to accept lies as the alternative. Those among us who are most ignorant about INDIAN CULTURE are those who consider themselves the Africans
          from ‘town’. My roots are in the deep south where my education began in a Presbyterian school. In my upbringings I had a close view of hindu cultures in all its naturalness and what I know now as racist behavior.
          Most of the ceremonials were never explained or if they were, it was sugar-coated as they are now doing with Divali – the celebration of light over darkness. The question is what would we be if there was no ‘darkness’? Darkness is just as cultivating and essential in promoting life as light. Both have its role to play as life begins and ends. The idea that light has to conquer darkness is somewhat of a foolish proposition. But many of our ‘town’ Africans are believing that proposition. Anyway, coming back to your ‘third standard education’. You have given us quite a lesson and schooling on hinduism that I believe that you can teach most hindus at HUWI about their own religion. It is the best revelations I have had occasion to read about this important socio/religion/politic organization. As for the college educated and matriculated blogger crediting you with that standard of education, I say that he looks like a fool when your writings are compared to his.

        • Alyssa,
          Certainly I did not mean Shah is cast minded. Though, like you, I do believe that Hinduism has infected a large amount of Indo Muslims in Trinidad and the Asian sub-continent in a very negative way. I did say that Africans have no greater enemy than Hinduism (and LBAs as you interjected). At the same time there is no diametrically opposed beliefs systems as that of Hindusim and Islam. As we may surmise Shah is neither nor.
          You did a very sound and readily acceptable analysis of Shah. I agree he will go at the individual extreme cases, but as you say, not at the foundation of the Indo/Hindu establishment. I have always reflected on how the Indo Muslim community would have behaved politically and in relationship to Hindus, if Kamal has succeeded Dr. Williams. As for Shah personally, he certainly is not in the ranks of the Ramcharitars, Ralf Maharajs, or any other Indo writing on national issues. I personally believe Shah is mainly concerned in writing himself into the history of Trinidad and Tobago as the main protagonist of the 1970s. This is his ultimate aim; his own legacy as the main star of the *Black Power* movement.
          Shah is writing for posterity so that future researchers would look into his writings and acclaim him the Father of Black Power and the main opponent of Dr. Williams. What Shah really writes is nothing but HIS- story; fabulous and fascinating. You have it neatly folded when you recognized that Shah “ holds back and always has a political spin to it…not on behalf of UNC or an indian political party, but on behalf of the indian community & his own political legacy. That incisive observation on Shah is so brilliant that all the lights of Dviali could not have illuminated the persona of any individual!
          As for Mamoo, your rebuttal in another post could be referenced here also, as to his type of storytelling. He is the opposite of Shah. He is not defending any political legacy. He is defending a caste legacy. He will go to any length to peddle his Hindu caste propaganda with any kind of outrageous narrative taken from fictional anecdotes to fit the historical events of ethnic confrontation in Guyana. From this he can derive any type of storytelling readily acceptable to his kith and kin. He fails to realise we are a different kind of audience with totally divergent experience. However, the reference I am quoting, is where you cited Shah on Bhadase Maharaj.
          “Shah exposed in an article where Bhadase Maharaj ordered the murder of an indian faamily(burned alive at home,) in order to start a racial war by blaming PNM and Africans.”
          Alyssa, we will always remain indebted to you for your profound insight into the inherent dangers of castism in Hinduism (Brahminism) and the constant warnings going out to NEGROES to beware of this abominable and cursed poison against humanity. The hindu caste mind is cast in steel and is very static in race (colour) stigmatization over the many millennia. Afros would be eternally doomed to to think otherwise. Mamoo is using the identical strategy employed by (Hitler) Bhadase and all those who are steeped in the workings of fascism, using religious and political extremism and the psychology of projection to gullible Negroes in order to perpetrate the act of achieving their caste society in Trinidad and Tobago and by extension, the Caribbean. We will not give any credit to any report or writing by any caste hindu at no juncture and on no topic whatsoever.
          We say Amen to this!

          • AWO….please Don’t go…stay!

            Thank You, Excellent contribution.

            I like tying in current events to drive home the topics i discuss. Are you following the U.S. Donald Trump imbroglio? Trump hesistated or gambled in opting not to repudiate The Ex-KKK leader and frequently dubbed ‘Father’ Of the Neo-NAZI/White Nationalist Movement DAVID DUKE. Awo,Kian,Yoruba…get this David Duke is on record as saying that he never UNDERSTOOD white supremacy, UNTIL he visited INDIA…he even journaled his visit to India in 1971 & shaped his future ‘endevours’. Sooo, White Supremacists get their ‘Inspiration’ from India & Brahmanism a.k.a misnomered ‘Hinduism’.
            BUTTTTTTTTTTTT, don’t take my word for it LOL…take it away Daaaaaavid Duuuuuke
            https://www.stormfront.org/india.htm

          • Additonally Awo,
            I want to re-iterate this important point, and pray it sinks in…DO NOT ‘Take Chain Up’ with the deliberately ambiguous definion and explanation for the whole light & dark concept in Divali celebration…it is inseparable from Brahminist(‘Hindu’) Theology, Ram Leela etc…’Lightness” & “Darkness” in Brahmanism is in reference to Skin Colour & RACE…The Baghavad Gita, The Vedas(hence Vedic) & other Hindu Scriptures are based upon Aryan History in India i.e. CONQUEST of the Native Inhabitants of what is called India Today…BLACK SKINNED AFRICAN (Ethipoian) people! The Aryan invaders,according to Brahminist (‘Hindu’) accounts in their very own sacred texts & scriptures refer to the Native people as BLACK/DARK,MALIGNANT & NOSELESS i.e. Not the ideal pointy/European-ish!
            Soooo, “Light Conquering Darkness” in Divali is not Primarily or secondarily Metaphorical…it LITERALLY celebrates & ‘Drives Home’ the point that the invading ‘Aryans’ who were LIGHT (Skinned) CONQUERED the DARK (Skinned) NATIVE inhabitants of India (a war that laasted 10000 years)…they are celebrating their History of conquest! Similar to Ram Leela…celebrating the Burning of a DARK skinned man (direct genetic ancestor of Untouchables) for ‘interfering’ with a LIGHT skinned woman (Sita)…interstingly, untouchables (Dalits) name this celebration(Ram Leela) as a festival that promotes & Perpetuates Varna a.k.a ‘Caste’ Ideology…lol…and they get africans to participate in T&T.

        • Alyssa I am trying to post but having difficulty.

          • David Duke: A Ghost from India Haunts Me Still
            Shah: Rodney’s ghost haunts Guyana
            Alyssa…I am not going….lol…
            Indeed I remember when David Duke was running for President of the United States in the late eighties early nineties. He was exposed then as Grand Wizard and had to pop out of the race. Now, you have poignantly brought him back to life in a manner we probably never envisioned. In the context of Donald Trump and Mamoo. Trump in the sense that as a Presidential frot runner, he may be of the same fabric as David Duke. We see clearly the populist demagogue in Trump that has all the hallmarks of a rabble rousing fascist. You have pointed us to the possibility that AmeriKKKa may for the first time have an open fascist president. Alyssa, you have really opened our eyes to some very powerful stuff in international politics that we were not able to sequence properly. I am referring in specifics to an article in the Express by Darryn Boodan.
            http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160303/editorial/the-indian-trump
            Whereas Duke imbibed all the tastes, sights and sounds of India, historical, religious and cultural, he was not able to forge any political alliance. What we are given in the excerpt is his relationship with a British colonial. Your post here presents the Duke-Trump connection a la KKK. Where Duke had failed, Trump would have succeeded. I am understanding this from your own post as well as from the stormfront link. Proud Indo Trinidadian Boodan, provided another insight into the Trump factor that is directly connected to the political factor that would be certainly pleasing to David Duke in a win win scenario; a fascist AmeriKKKan and a fascist Hindu Prime minister of India. Boodan looked at Modi as the main instigator of anti-muslim massacres.
            “Before my journey to India, the racial ideals that I believed in l abstract concepts and principles…that experience changed an intellectual commitment into an almost holy obligation.
            For that holy obligation, we find Duke quoting BOLDLY from the Bhagavad Gita ( a passage very similar to the one Kamla quoted about battle during the UNC internals):
            “Likewise having regard for duty to your caste
            For in a warrior, there exists no better thing than
            A fight required of duty.”
            The prophet of white AmeriKKKan racism was born out of the BG. Prophet Duke extracted that caste factor from the BG and imported it to the United States where he became a most zealous racial missionary. The justification for the Grand Wizard, the Klan in AmeriKKKa based on the Bhagavad Gita.
            “My life became from that moment interwoven with the Cause, a Cause that I knew that I would never abandon.”
            But how does that coincide with King’s pilgrimage to the same India? Nehru wanted to King to visit India. King visited India in 1959, some twelve years before Duke. There King found Ghandi. In a radio address made during his final evening in India, King reflected:
            “Since being in India, I am more convinced than ever before that the method of nonviolent resistance is the most potent weapon available to oppressed people in their struggle for justice and human dignity”.
            Duke was not invited by Nehru, nor was he interested in Ghandi. Duke did not understand that Ghandi was the grand master of racial, ethnic and cast segregation, something King missed and his non-violence resulted in a submissive caste pacifism being fed to Africans in America. It is my belief that Nehru had a different reason for King visiting India that what the latter took back to AmeriKKKa.
            This is a difficult topic to compare King and Duke and the issue of caste/race in India and Amerikka. As a result I am venturing to say that Duke was more realistic from the point of view of being historically more equipped than King:
            “Aryans, or Indo-European Caucasians created the great Indian, or Hindu Civilization. Aryans swept over the Himalayas to the Indian sub-continent and conquered the aboriginal people. The original term “India” was coined by the Aryan invaders from their Sanskrit word Sindu for the river now called the Indus. Sanskrit is perhaps the oldest of the Indo-European languages, having a common origin to all the modern languages of Europe. Composed in about 1500 BC, the Hindu religious texts of the Rig Veta tell the story of the long struggle between the Aryans and the aboriginal people of the Indian subcontinent. Sixteen Aryan states were partitioned by the sixth century AD, and Brahmanism became the chief religion of the India.”
            I don’t think King understood this. As you yourself have been emphasizing that Brahmanism is the “religion” we refer to as Hinduism. King visited in 1959 and Duke in 1971. But Duke understood the long hot summer much more than King did. King spent five weeks Duke mentions hot ten times. As a matter of fact Duke begins his story with that day burnt into his mind. “
            “Who can forget the day on which he first sees one of the Seven Wonders of the World? I vividly remember the details of the August day “
            And he ends as he started.
            “The flame that ignited in me on that hot August day is still white hot and imperishable.”
            Admittedly King went in February while Duke made his appearance in August. This was Duke’s Long Hot Summer for racial turmoil in AmeriKKKa.

      • Awo…even Freddie Kissoon pointed out that Africans openly spoke out against Burnham but Indians (Typical as seen in the UNCOPP reign) are Stratefically, ethnically SILENT or support via rationalization of wrong doings. Also, this is the same problem with African “black power” activists i Ty&T…just as rodney they are stuck on this European African Dynamic and keep ignoring & siding with Indian racists…Also, which us a dangerous indian hindu practice whe in power or observe their communities…they do not arrest Indian/Hindu wrongdoers….there is this mindset that comes from ‘hindu’ caste ideology that some people who are ‘superior’ cannot be wrong or arrested…in other words…they are immune to western law…now look at guyana and trinidad…African dominated police force GLEEFULLY arrest african people with the slightest of infractions, no matter what church you belong to…imagine that under an africa dominated police force….there is a clear lopsided arresti g of their OWN! Have you Noticed that Raffique Shah criticizes tthe caricom leaders (africans) for not criticizing Burnham (african) just as ralph maraj did in his articles with 4he thinoy veiled insinuation that it is ethnic preference BUTTTTTTTTTTTT DID Raffique & Ralph criticize the same Caricom Leaders for NOT CRITICIZING BHARATH JAGDEO’s & PPP’s reign 1992-2015??? Eh?? THAT is a typical Indian mindset..

        • Kamla visited India also. But it is clear that whereas Duke and King had to visit India to derive any of the pejorative meaning of Hinduism/Brahmanism, Kamla already had a deep belief in the caste racism she was born with. being already H”Whatever I am today is because Bihar is in my DNA and whatever my ancestors taught me,” indu, and having sworn on the BG many a times, she made a pilgrimage to India emphasizing that “ Whatever I am today is because Bihar is in my DNA and whatever my ancestors taught me.”
          “Whatever I am today is because Bihar is in my DNA and whatever my ancestors taught me,” http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/nri/nri-achievers/Kamla-Persad-Bissessar-returns-to-village-in-Bihar-for-an-emotional-reunion/articleshow/11451273.cms
          It was not what Trinidad and Tobago taught her. By that time she had already locked up TEN THOUSAND AFRICANS in Trinidad and Tobago, something not even the slavemasters, Jim Crow system was able to do in such a short time was achieved by an INDO HINDU REGIME! David Duke would have loved this, because it was in the same Long Hot Summer of AUGUST that Kamla declared a State of Emergency to incarcerate ten thousand Africans!
          “At the height of the Birmingham events over 3,000 Blacks were in jail, the largest number ever imprisoned at any time in the history of the movement.”
          Dr. Williams also did visit India. He met PM Nehru decades before while at Oxford in the 1930’s! Dr. Williams was interested in Nehru as a radical historian, anti-colonialist, pioneer of the Bandung Conference in 1955 and vicious opponent of the caste system. Dr. Williams found in Nehru the same tenets of struggle and the Bandung Conference ( as opposite to the Berlin Cinference) what Malcolm X found; its *Third World* solidarity and anti-colonialism. Dr. Williams was communicating with Nehru since 1958 and visited India in 1961. But Dr. Williams was also interested in India from the point of view of the Orignial African inhabitants. Dr. Williams writes on Nehru and the Dravidians that:
          Nehru’s proudest chapters are those dealing with the Dravidian civilization. Of southern India, with its highlight, the intellectual phenomen of Shankara, who set about reviving Hinduism.”
          Dr. Williams was interested in India and Nehru from a radical anti-co,onial perspective, and from this aspect of the Dravidian civilization and the eradication of the caste system, writing that:
          This Dravidian civilization produced one of the most finest expressions of Indian history.”
          So there we have it Alyssa, as I had to make a general expedition into what obtains in India, the mecca of human inequality. I thought it must have been very interesting to observe how King, Duke, Kamla and Dr. Williams would have reacted differently to a very nasty system. What King would have seen in Ghandi, whom he did not meet and who was long deceased before he visited India, was opposed to what Dr. Williams would have seen in Nehru from the radical anti- Colonial, pro Dravidian, anti-caste perspective. We see that Dr. Williams here was anti-colonial and anti-caste and interested in the African origin of Indian Civilisation.
          Unlike Kamla! Kamla epitomises the long hot summer of that “Davidian” month of August. She is the David Duke of Trinidad and Tobago. For Duke Hinduism (Brahminism) was a found cause as expounded in the BG. For Kamla, it was embedded in her DNA, something more profound! Kamla is more caste and race than Duke. A danger to Trinidad and Tobago and Africans, and had T&T the moral fabric of even the racist AmeriKKKa, she would have been banned from parliamentary politics. The problem is that Africans in Trinidad and Tobago are World and Olympic Champions in the illiteracy of the true nature of Hinduism (Brahminism) and the permanent and eternal illusion of “all ah we is one!” He and she preaches and practices this death wish, suicidal, one-ism to the maximum of his/her capacity while in a society of multiple David Dukes and Kamla Persad Bissessars! NJAC. Emancipation Support Committee, Black Caucus Movement, Black Agenda and the Afro-Saxon elements of the PNM. Not forgetting the so-called intellectuals, notable among them Lloyd Best. I exclude Dr. Williams who stands aloof from that ignoble pack. Dr. Williams remains in a most exalted class for himself without human equal.

          • So now we return to the non-entity, low caste fanatic in our midst. I mentioned Mamoo because this caste infidel, one who would on sight be considered untouchable in India today in an instant, is looking at the complete scenario from a purely caste perspective, which at the end of the day still comes down to confrontation of extreme caste and racial ideologies of Casteism and KKKlanism at the highest political levels. Mamoo is nothing else but a reminder of Paulo Freire’s *Pedagogy of the Oppressed* where the oppressed internalizes the psychology of the oppressor. It is the same way Mamoo internalizes the caste degradation and subordination of Brahimism. I think David Duke understands this much better than Mamoo (Kangal) when he says that:
            “Over the past few centuries, the clear racial differences faded, but one can still notice the lighter hues and taller statures of the higher castes… In modern India, the greatest insult one could pay a fellow Indian is to call him “black.”… Only a small percentage of each generation had sexual liaisons with the lower castes, but over dozens of generations a gradual change in the racial composition had occurred, almost imperceptible in a single generation, but dramatic after a millennium.“
            In making us aware of this connection of these two major forces of evil forces, I totally understand the point you are exposing us to. The concept of race was only abstract imaginations in the mind of Duke until he was able to visit india where this abstraction became a living reality of flesh and blood, a Cause. And not just any cause, but a HOLY one. A HOLY and RACIAL. From India, Duke was able to formulate his abstract racial concepts into a RELIGIOUS belief. Hinduism (Invading Aryan Brahmanism) was the substance and fuel that fed Amerikkkan Klannism and Religious fundamentalism of the Southern states. Thank you for giving us this insight Alyssa, and it is our duty to put this into a Caribbean context. Of necessity because these caste outcasts are in our midst with serious caste intentions vis a vis the Afrikan in the Caribbean.
            Alyssa, interestingly Duke was not the first Cauc-ASIAN to discover the fundamental mechanics of racism in India. European racism, fascism and Nazism were all fueled by Hinduism (Brahmanism) due to contact with India. Hitler himself pointed this out, stating that British consciousness of self was born in India. The status the British acquired in India based on their “whiteness” had a huge impact on race and their self awareness in going forward with their colonial domination. Many British historians wrote that India was a testing ground for British self assuredness. European colonialism and slavery were mainly of a nationalistic and economic perspective; sometimes religious explanations were advanced for what was basically economics. Dr. Williams wrote correctly in *Capitalism and Slavery* that “ A racial twist has been given to what is basically an economic phenomenon. Slavery was not born of racism, racism was the consequence of slavery. Unfree labor in the New World was brown, white, black and yellow. Catholic, Protestant and pagan.” Dr. Williams wrote that the ORIGIN of African slavery was not racial, but economic. And that how it was. Those who followed the development of slavery in the *New World* over the centuries, noted that in the early years white European convicts worked alongside black Africans on the plantation, and in most cases the whites were treated more harshly than the blacks. This has also been noted by Professor Hilary Beckles. It was only in the later centuries that, as Dr. Williams wrote, a racial twist was given to what was basically an economic phenomenon. Racism thus became an integral part of slavery.
            The main reasons for this was that as the British, as well as other Europeans, became more and more acquainted with Indian society and Brahmanism and all its religious and linguistic tenets, they, like Duke, experienced racial revelations that gave them all kinds of illusions, delusions and hallucinations never before experienced in feudal Europe, and even including the Roman empire. Now it became more and more manifest that racial justifications were given for economic exploitation. Duke was late in what Dr. Williams would have called a a system already long developed before he made his own discovery in India. Hitler was before him. All the British and European poets, linguists, philosophers were there before him. Duke was late. Very late.

    • “ANYWHERE there is an indian soiety on planet earth…..african people (dark skinned)will have problems…..although the racist ideolocgy is rooted i Hinduism….since back in India, this racist ideology ‘migrated’ to other faiths i.e. Islam, sikh, christianity…..so Indian society as a whole is extremely racist!”–Alyssa.

      Again another Standard 3 interpretation of world. You want to see racism look to the United States in fact spend an evening looking at the movie “Mississippi Burning” and another one “Mississippi Massala”. I cannot defend the caste system because I don’t believe in it. Obviously you believe in to the extent that you are willing to commit suicide to prove that it exist in Trinidad. You, Kian, Neal and Yoruba see race in everything.

      The facts stands above your empty rant on the issue of racism. You are no expert but a person whose warped view on others is sad explanation for your existence. I deal in facts and choose not to invent ghost and goblins where there is none. Those stories were more related to my years in Standard 3.
      FACT: For 37 years out 50 years of nationhood the PNM had uninterrupted rule over TNT. They had unfettered access to the treasury 2 massive oil booms and billions to squander as they like. It was the golden era of black rule and power. Indians mainly Muslims and Presbyterians supported the PNM.(it was not racism back then or was it)
      –The PNM only hired their supporters where the civil service had over 75% Africanas. Housing, jobs, promotions were all based on racism. The Prime Minister, President, CoP,head of army and all positions of power were given to Africanas. Today we are seeing a return to that era. Education did not matter, party in power mattered as the oppressors rule with bull whip over the nation. For you that would not be racism.
      –When Manning became PM he struck a deal with Abu Bakr and over 300 Indian businessmen became the target of “bogus kidnappings”. Manning said he intend to correct historical imbalances by (taking from Indians). Many fled to America and Canada.

      I could go on but those are the facts and you can’t argue against facts. And save the lecture on Hinduism for Kian, he enjoys it, Swaha, swaha…

      • …were more related to my years in Standard 3.

        Mamoo… your Freudian slip is showing….

      • Ohhhhhhhhhh YESSSSSSSS…Thank YOU Mamoo….Yoruba, Kian,Rodwell,Awo et al….GET THE FILM Titled
        “Mississippi Masala” lol…yesss, it was directed By an Indian Professor who also directed The Film “Kama Sutra”…It stars an actress from Kama Sutra & Denzel Washington…The Film is about a fictional family Idi Amin expelled from Uganda, so it propagates a WHOLLY Hindu India view of the Ugandan issue BUTTTTTTTTTT there is a scene recreation of the weeks leading up to the expulsion and there is a clip of Idi Amin making the complaints about the Indian attitude to Indigenous Ugandans and lol…You should see ‘their’ (the hindu family’s) memory of a Utopic Uganda (whe they were getting ready to leave)…their Indigenous Ugandan Loyal SERVANTS(it was
        so telling..like watching a white south african family during apartheid)…Anyway…the whole gist of the film is that Denzel Washington an honest up and coming businessman who gets contracts to clean Motels (of which the hindu family own one)…Denzel & the Daughter of the Patriarch end up together…Listen…that Indian Director really exposed the perspective & attitude of Hindus/Indians towards Africans and skin colour…the love interest of Denzel talks from the beginning about how she is berated by relatives and friends for being “too dark”…but she grew up in Mississippi…so she is supposed to be what racist indians in T&T call ‘creolized indians’…The Director herself, acts in a scene where two the female relatives gossip about how difficult it would befor denzel’s love interest to find a(hindu) husband because she is “too dark” and get this…The director’s character says to her sister “you can be dark with money, or Light without money…but, you cannot be DARK with NO Money!”.. (they laugh and high-five each other).Also…and this is my favourite part of the film…since it was a typical extended family…denzel’s love interest’s uncles & cousins were also around and in the story so…one of them spotted her & denzel together and suspected their affair…soooo these two men follow them and break into their room during their affair…the small physically inferior (in built) cousin/uncle Attacks denzel muttering abiut “…you…leave “our” women” and a brief scuffle ensues…typically the indian guy is manhandled reasonably but his ego enflamed and he orders her to exit he room (motel) THEN, after the issue is seemingly over..the same indian attacker calls up denzel’s client and bad mothed him with lies so he lost the contracts (out of business) Nowww…wait…it ain’t over….it so happens the same Indian guy and his brother, (always fake smiling) unintentionally rear ends Denzels vehicle in an accident some time after and they were worried about insurance and a lawsuit, so becUse the driver (denzel’s attacker in the motel) is ashamed to reason with him after he ruined denzel’s business but is desperate to avoid a lawsuit, (lol) his brother/cousin who was with him whe he attacked Denzel and whe he got in the accident…get this..LOLLLLL…This guy ENSURES…(with chest thumping confidence)…he guarantees his brother/cousin that he could MANIPULATE denzel into dropping the lawsuit…LOLL…this is too good…he then SLIMILY appraoaches Denzel with “Heyyyy, My BROTHER, what’s Up My Brother???”….LOLLLLL….Thank You Mamoo for reminding me to refer THIS Movie…That Director deliberately made these scenes and scenarios to EXPOSE the mentality of her people towards African people!Though not in depth or explaining the religious root or how bad it truly is…NOTICE how CONFIDENT that racist was that he could appraoach africans feigning ‘Brotherly ethnic kinship’ to get his way….PLEASE get this movie…”Mississippi Masala” by Mira Nair…1991/1992 therabout…However, it is a propaganda movie about Uganda & Indians, as it makes it seem as if they were simply innocent Uganda loving people who were expelled (not the family but the entire ethnic group)…ALSO…there is this new Movie/Documentary fezturing the Indian American comedian Aziz Ansari i believe…it is called “Meet The Patels”… (“Patel”is an ACTUAL Uppercaste Last Name)…WATCH THAT…althougb somewhat pretentious, it attempts to highlight how Narrowminded Indian families are with regards to dating & Marriage…The show is a series of interviews of Indian Americans sharing their experiences with their parents growing up in America with other ethnic groups and dating/Marriage….blah blah blah…Loom for THE BLACKEST INDIAN interviewed…an honest young woman and SHE said
        “Every Night before i went to bed (from childhood) my mother would rattle off all the names of the HINDU GODS, and then she would say to me…NO BOYS, NO “BLACKS”, NO MUSLIMS, (MUAH) Goodnight”…LOLLLLLL…FINALLY HONESTY…..lolllllll….and she was the BLACKEST Indian there!!! typically what you find in T&T!!!….

        • Oh yes, I recommended Mississippi Masala to the blog some months ago, but not with your excellent synopsis…

          Shalom.

          • Yoruba, my synopisis was incomplete though…one mahor issue is…although the indian was considered an “ugly duckling” in her family/indians in general….did you realize how she was considered a “catch” for the African Americans?? Did you see the way the character played by actor ‘Roc’ (baldheaded) all but salivated upon being introduced to her?? Even Denzel’s ex-girlfriend who was supposed to be also a “catch”(above average beauty…straithtened hair etc) BUTTTTTTTTTTTT The indian chick was supposed to be something to “show off”…the honestly showcased point here in the film is, that Although Indians as an ethnic group, view Africans as inferior & ‘lesser than’ they are, African
            people (men particularly) view Indian women(as the film shows even those indians that are shunned in amongst their own as ‘lesser’)are viewed by africans as a ‘step up’ (straight hair)…hence the problems in T&T….

        • So now we return to the non-entity, low caste fanatic in our midst. I mentioned Mamoo because this caste infidel, one who would on sight be considered untouchable in India today in an instant, is looking at the complete scenario from a purely caste perspective, which at the end of the day still comes down to confrontation of extreme caste and racial ideologies of Casteism and KKKlanism at the highest political levels. Mamoo is nothing else but a reminder of Paulo Freire’s *Pedagogy of the Oppressed* where the oppressed internalizes the psychology of the oppressor. It is the same way Mamoo internalizes the caste degradation and subordination of Brahimism. I think David Duke understands this much better than Mamoo (Kangal) when he says that:
          “Over the past few centuries, the clear racial differences faded, but one can still notice the lighter hues and taller statures of the higher castes… In modern India, the greatest insult one could pay a fellow Indian is to call him “black.”… Only a small percentage of each generation had sexual liaisons with the lower castes, but over dozens of generations a gradual change in the racial composition had occurred, almost imperceptible in a single generation, but dramatic after a millennium.“
          In making us aware of this connection of these two major forces of evil forces, I totally understand the point you are exposing us to. The concept of race was only abstract imaginations in the mind of Duke until he was able to visit india where this abstraction became a living reality of flesh and blood, a Cause. And not just any cause, but a HOLY one. A HOLY and RACIAL. From India, Duke was able to formulate his abstract racial concepts into a RELIGIOUS belief. Hinduism (Invading Aryan Brahmanism) was the substance and fuel that fed Amerikkkan Klannism and Religious fundamentalism of the Southern states. Thank you for giving us this insight Alyssa, and it is our duty to put this into a Caribbean context. Of necessity because these caste outcasts are in our midst with serious caste intentions vis a vis the Afrikan in the Caribbean.
          Alyssa, interestingly Duke was not the first Cauc-ASIAN to discover the fundamental mechanics of racism in India. European racism, fascism and Nazism were all fueled by Hinduism (Brahmanism) due to contact with India. Hitler himself pointed this out, stating that British consciousness of self was born in India. The status the British acquired in India based on their “whiteness” had a huge impact on race and their self awareness in going forward with their colonial domination. Many British historians wrote that India was a testing ground for British self assuredness. European colonialism and slavery were mainly of a nationalistic and economic perspective; sometimes religious explanations were advanced for what was basically economics. Dr. Williams wrote correctly in *Capitalism and Slavery* that “ A racial twist has been given to what is basically an economic phenomenon. Slavery was not born of racism, racism was the consequence of slavery. Unfree labor in the New World was brown, white, black and yellow. Catholic, Protestant and pagan.” Dr. Williams wrote that the ORIGIN of African slavery was not racial, but economic. And that how it was. Those who followed the development of slavery in the *New World* over the centuries, noted that in the early years white European convicts worked alongside black Africans on the plantation, and in most cases the whites were treated more harshly than the blacks. This has also been noted by Professor Hilary Beckles. It was only in the later centuries that, as Dr. Williams wrote, a racial twist was given to what was basically an economic phenomenon. Racism thus became an integral part of slavery.
          The main reasons for this was that as the British, as well as other Europeans, became more and more acquainted with Indian society and Brahmanism and all its religious and linguistic tenets, they, like Duke, experienced racial revelations that gave them all kinds of illusions, delusions and hallucinations never before experienced in feudal Europe, and even including the Roman empire. Now it became more and more manifest that racial justifications were given for economic exploitation. Duke was late in what Dr. Williams would have called a a system already long developed before he made his own discovery in India. Hitler was before him. All the British and European poets, linguists, philosophers were there before him. Duke was late. Very late.
          Not only slavery. But also Independence. The British understood very well the kind of people they were transplanting to the Caribbean. So from slavery to colonialism to Federation to independence, it was this same group that stood in opposition to the interest of the Africans. Why would the Indo/Hindus oppose independence for a people after centuries of struggle! Not only that. The same Hindus were against the withdrawal of the Amerikkkan military base and were seeking the aid of segregationist AmeriKKKa at a time when the same Martin Luther King was facing Jim Crow! As if to remind again, at a time when Duke would have forgotten the details of his Indian sojourn, the same people were running to Canada seeking asylum from the Idi Amins in Trinidad and Tobago in the 1980s!
          But it seems that the Africans cannot get it. The Black Agenda, Emancipation Support Committee, NJAC, Black Caucus Movement and Afro-saxon intellectuals and semi-socialists of the Labour Movement believe it was the British colonialists who created the division and divide and rule, country-town dichotomy between Africans and Hindus.

        • Not only slavery. But also Independence. The British understood very well the kind of people they were transplanting to the Caribbean. So from slavery to colonialism to Federation to independence, it was this same group that stood in opposition to the interest of the Africans. Why would the Indo/Hindus oppose independence for a people after centuries of struggle! Not only that. The same Hindus were against the withdrawal of the Amerikkkan military base and were seeking the aid of segregationist AmeriKKKa at a time when the same Martin Luther King was facing Jim Crow! As if to remind again, at a time when Duke would have forgotten the details of his Indian sojourn, the same people were running to Canada seeking asylum from the Idi Amins in Trinidad and Tobago in the 1980s!

          • Ahhhhhhhhh Yesssssss Awo,
            BUTTTTTTTTTTTT Did you know that because of the massive fraud attempted by many Indians in the 1980’s…claiming…listen to this eh….that African trinidadians were raping and oppressing them!!…yessss…and to keep up THAT LIE…while in Canada some appeared on television “recounting” their manufactured experiences and demonizing African Trinidadians who were living in canada at the time! As a result of the canadian authorities investigatint and rejecting their false claims, Indians were sent back by the PLANELOAD and the coveted commonwealth member “no visa pass” was revoked! Trinidadians did not need a Visa to go to canada before…just a passport…so peter paid for Prakash and paul paid for all…BUTTTTTTTTTTTT could you imagine the mindset of thise who did that living and working in T&T jn influential positions??wasn’t Hulsie Bhaggan an activist against alleged African rapes Of Indians?? After thus false accusation was PROVEN FALSE,as it was discovered to be INDIAN MEN with commercial ‘RASTA WIGS’,there were NO APOLOGIES
            to the african community or any offical retractions or admissions of regret…THIS is why scathing calypsoes were written about Hulsie Bhaggan…Also, do you think it a coincidence that it was 1986…the year of the second most pivotal election in T&T?? All of these acts were what?? Gestures of Brotherly Love and Unity?? These are the same minds that were and are desperate to get State Power OVER African people!

      • “I cannot defend the caste system because I don’t believe in it. Obviously you believe in to the extent that you are willing to commit suicide to prove that it exist in Trinidad. You, Kian, Neal and Yoruba see race in everything……Mamoo
        Actually, this statement says a lot about the person who made it. The caste system by any other name, remains the caste system. It has been practiced for more than three thousand years, where people are pre-judged, by birth of the place they should be in life. It is not by the contents of their character but by what they perceive to be physical differences they are so defined. So, when the author dis-avows its existence or pretends to be ignorant of it in the society, he is in fact telling LIES. Let us examine typical racists statements the he has made:
        1. ” Two of my best buddies are married to Africana women.” Classic racist sentiment. “Some of my best friends are black”. The statement is meant to be an excuse to hide his racist feelings. It presumes his ignorance of the racism he is trying to hide. He clarifies his ‘friendship’ before unleashing his poison.

        2. “How can your sad pathetic brain continue to ignore the statistics?”. Statistics is as believable as a magicians’s wand. It can be used to project any point of view that those who are interpreting it wants to make of it. “Most Trinidadians are friendly people”. That might be a true statement to some but a false one to others. Statistics can be obtained to verify both point of views. He is also trying to belittle Alyssa with his sadistic, small-mindedness at work, hoping she would cave in. His negative description is not meant to respect her views, but to inject what he deems, his superior intellect as opposed to what he considers her ‘inferiority’. It is weakness of mind, that tells him that to compete, his opponent MUST be lower than him. This makes him feel superior. If this is not a sad and pathetic yearning to be superior, then I don’t know what it is.

        3. “Why the continued effort to invoke race on people who have demonstrated a great love for the Africana by the facts presented?” Here the racist, is denying that he speaks of race. It is not him, it is the other person.
        The contents of this statement sells him out though. Again it is LIE upon LIE. There is no evidence to support ‘his truth’. Isn’t RACIAL superiority the object of his criticism of her?

        4. “The Africana male is searching for real women, not insecure ones like you with wig, false teeth and a very large posterior.”
        The racist MUST LIE, in order to solidify his argument.
        Here, he appears to be creating a caricature of Alyssa by describing her as a wig wearing, false teeth mouthed, big backside black woman. Fact – he does not know Alyssa or has physical knowledge of how she looks, but he gets his kicks by describing her as a physical specimen that he deems as ugly. (psychological warfare). The racist is really a weak person, who gets his strength from what he believes is written and supported by the majority of people who thinks like him.

        “I cannot defend the caste system because I don’t believe in it.” Here, his disavowal of understanding the caste system is not ignorance. It is really his defense of it and what he knows it defines by its practice. By saying that he does not know what Alyssa is talking about, when she mentions the caste system, he is in fact trying to convince us, of the absence of caste ideology in his religion (hindu) and by extension, the society at large. Evidence of the caste mind is all too powerful to ignore among our hindu population. We know it by the experience of living with it. What Alyssa has done is to direct us in the direction from where it was derived. Mamoo and others call that RACISM. It CANNOT be racism to point out facts. FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. It is our living experience that the caste mind is very much alive and constitutes a large part of societal norms. The reason why there is so much written about it, is because we are seeing the effects of its doctrine in the people with whom we come into contact, namely the hindu population. So, no amount of denial without evidence of its absence will suffice. And this is where the task of Mamoo, trying to convince us otherwise, becomes an impossible proposition.

        • ” Although Indians as an ethnic group, view Africans as inferior & ‘lesser than’ they are….” Alyssa.

          The proof is in the “pudding”, India has the 10th largest economy in the world. Name me one Africana economy in the top ten? In the Congo 35,000 reported rapes per year (mind boggling), South Africa more baby rapist than anywhere in the world. Somalia Al Shabab is slaughtering thousands. Sudan is locked in a 25 year civil war that has seen 2 million deaths and thousands of lives destroyed and displace. AIDS alone has killed over 25 million Africanas too much uncontrollable sex, Nigeria was a prosperous nation despite corruption but now “boko haram” is locked in a brutal civil war…. My favourite Africana nation is Ghana, I hope they rise, they have managed to exist peacefully with no major internal conflicts.

          Yes India has its problems but nothing compared to Africa. My hope is one day Africa will rise and I will live to see it. They have a lot of potential to succeed, they need better administration and good governance. I also hope that one day I will touch the base of Kilimanjaro.

          • I will not even try to question your source nor your statistics. But I am very concerned about you. Most people use that kind of information for financial, social or academic purposes. You, on the other hand, are using it to massage your ego. The information appears to masterbate a desire in you to wallow in the knowledge, that black are suffering more than you. From my stand point, you are a descendant of the dalits. We do not cherish the treatment meted out to them in India. They are made to literarily carry loads of human waste on their heads, as the hindu religion designates them to do from birth to death. What you are doing here mentally, is figuratively toating the loads of waste your dalit fore parents carried on their heads and faces, to their mouths and literally feeding it on this blog for yours and fellow dalits’ amusement. This comes as no surprise to us readers, who have become accustomed to the stench of the waste you impart. But I am sure it makes your brahmin masters proud, to know that you are maintaining what they have trained you to do.

  • “…Unlike Alyssa i spoke to families…” Mamoo LIE!

    How does Mamoo know that i have not spoken to families or that MY FAMILY lived in Guyana?? How does Mamoo know this?? Notice the Indian mind…Mamoo spurts out propaganda that he made up (LIE) or got from Indian guyanese who deliberately make up or tell HALF truths to rztionalize their rzcist behaviour ESPECIALLY after 1992-2015 when they had political power…this is the danger with the indian mindest to politics especially in T&T & Guyana…There is this NEED to shamelessly fabricate lies abiut african racism against indians, brutality & rape i order to….pay attention….Rtionalize what they INEVITABLY INTEND to do!….it is a Nasty, vicious cycle….slandering the victims of YOUR racism as being racist to RATIONALIZE your racist abuse if THEM….it will NEVER end…NOTE i am not saying that Indians were not killed because it was an ethnic war!…BUTTTTTTTTTT Mamoo & Indians shamelessly propagate that it was Africans slaughtering Indians and a mutual conflict….they used their political power to perpetuate these LIES to get their younger generstions to ‘Fall in Line’!
    Well, since Mamoo spurted out NO FACTS or quoted any Factual or at least documented account of the Guyanese ethnic war in that period, let me tell you something that i know of personally…ask ANY african guyanese over 50/60…the ‘set off’ point for open violent conflict was not immediate…it started with a segregation indians only among themselves & vice versa…’mixed’ were as usual not trusted by both sides, but were accepted by African guyanese BUTTTTTTTTTTTT do you know what DID ‘set it off’ for the African Guyanese?? Apart fro every thing else?? There were two boys 11 & 12…they were friends…one indian one african….The indian boy, unknowingly,tricked by his father to Lure his African friend to a clearing where they usually tied their goats & cows… (common back then for youth)…do you know what happened next?? The Boy’s neighbours…not parents were sent A message where to look…That 12 year old was found DEAD, sodomized & castrated with the penis INSIDE HIS MOUTH!!!…THAT…ask African Guyanese abiut THAT!….another thing….any analysis of african caribbean culture, religion social mores etc…comapre that similarly with INDIANS, along with a historical perspective…caste, violence, hate scorn specifically for Africans….who would most likely perpetuate the acts UNPROVOKED that Mamoo propagates??? The christian “god say to love everybody” Africans….descendents of slaves who fought against racism & injustice (documented fact) or Indians….Hindus….caste ideology…hate & scorn for black skin….black skinned people are considered sub human….african is the lowest inhuman state in caste ideology…??? Hmmmm??? Be objective readers??? ALSO….Note that in these outburst Mamoo and indians expose their true racist fears….African Penis Indian Vagina…similarly to European American racist propaganda shown in the silver screen film “Birth Of A Nation”…there is this ultimate fear of Indian women…especially Uppercaste being “spoiled” by “dem african rawan beasts”…did you kniw that this is all in MANU SMIRTI….yess….”If uppercaste (Light-ER skinned) woman has sex with Lower caste (Dark-ER skinned) Man…he shoukd be castrated…yess castrating ‘inferior’ men is part of Hindu culture/history….’sacred’ laws i.e. MANU SMIRTI (‘Hindu’ Legal Text)…the term “Doogala” Indians placed this racist caste inspired term in trinidad vernacular albeit deceitfully…”Doogala” is a Bhojpouri (Not Hindi) term which specifically used to denigrate and ascribe Inferior status to the children who are products of Indian African sexual relations ESPECIALLY indian WOMEN…the term “Doogala” Literzlly means “child of a whore” “Bastard Child” which means that african men & people as a whole are illegitimate fathers & seedline and any woman who ‘lays with’ them is a WHORE!!This also exposes how indians modified caste ideology outside of India among africans…in their minds Indians as a group are genetically superior and therefore Uppercaste and Africans as an entire group are LowerCaste….despite the fact that within the indian grouping there are uppercaste and lowercaste indians (in their warped minds). Indians as a group, notwithstading the stradlers i.e. those who are a small minority that do not, will always be the Instigators & chief culprits of promoting Ethnic Disharmony in soxieties where they exist among BLACK SKINNED Africans!

    • Your victimology and stereotyping continues “so Indian society as a whole is extremely racist!” “The African has no greater enemy than the Hindu.” –Alyssa
      First of all what you are writing on this blog is purely a subjective and hateful self made view of this agenda of hate that you are perpetuating.

      The facts are there for all to see, 22% of TNT population is dougla meaning for your standard 3 education that over 200,000 citizen have parents who are Indian and Africana. Two of my best buddies are married to Africana women. How can your sad pathetic brain continue to ignore the statistics? Why the continued effort to invoke race on people who have demonstrated a great love for the Africana by the facts presented?

      Alyssa you need to stop reading books by Kean Gibson and the black caucus. Their view of the caste system is terribly warped since it meant little or nothing to Hindus who settled sweet TNT. The current Prime Minister Dr. Rowley was seen winning on an underage Hindu girl who enjoyed giving the man some pleasure that he perhaps could not get from the home front. The Africana male is searching for real women, not insecure ones like you with wig, false teeth and a very large posterior.

      The truth is your lil diatribe reflect your own insecurities. You need to get over yourself luv.

      • Mamoo…careful with the misquoting eh…you are merging my quotes with another…”the african has no greater enemy than the hindu…”…that was NOT my posting…i do not know that to be true…Morgan Job is not a ‘hindu’…Andy Johnson is not a Hindu…Jack Warner is not a…..okay…bad example (prayed to Hanuman)

        Kian, Thank you…Hiwever as i have said before i am NOT an expert on Brahminism a.k.a ‘Hinduism’…It is a VAST amount of Literature..However….what i speak of with respect to its ideology and skin colour, african people & society is WITHOUT A DOUBT and as i made the point many moons ago…EVERYONE KNOWS Muslims do NOT eat pork or drink alcohol…have YOU ever read the Quor’an?? Imagine how silly, obnoxious, deceitful & childish it would be if a muslim had asked you THAT when you mention those FACTS about Islam(Muslims would not do that)…now compare this to Mamoo and others denying the racist skin colour fixation that ‘Hinduism’ is BUILT Upon…trying to create doubt and undermine credibility based on what ELSE is known about The belief system…why LIE?? I have posted numerous indisputable sources to back up every single thing that i have said…

        • Famous quote from Mississippi Burning for you Alyssa.
          Ward: If you were a Negro, nobody would give a damn. Haha.

        • Alyssa,

          You have Mamoo is bamboozled! Obsessed. I don’t Believe he is functionally illiterate, so why would he attribute statements to you that you never made. He would not acknowledge, nor apologize. Caste people usually don’t submit themselves to the requirements of truths and facts. SO he will allow his misquote to stand without correction. He would only correct his false representation in relation with a brahmin.

  • Dear Alyssa,

    Continue doing what you’re doing. Your work here is very much appreciated.

    The usual miscreants will squeal, because their cover of false religiosity is blown.

    The rest of us will appreciate the new insight into behaviours that we are all, to greater or lesser degree, familiar with in this island, but the wellsprings of which have been deliberately obscured.

    We live in a time of revelation, when all the mysteries are being revealed. The internet, and certainly including this blog, is a big part of that process of revelation. We here in T&T have the opportunity to connect dots far back in time and far away in space, without leaving the comfort of home.

    We read about FEM Hosein, 88 years ago, admitting the “Indian is full of his prejudices”, and only now is the full depth of meaning of that statement coming into view for the non-indo. We can read about, or view on youtube, the phenomenon of indo “prejudice” and worse, played out in India, in Fiji, in Uganda, Mauritius, Kenya, South Africa, Guyana, and elsewhere.

    Those who submit humbly to Truth, must accept it, however regrettably, and with whatever revulsion the Truth in this case elicits.

    What is sad is to see those its victims, like the hereditary coolie on this blog, seek to make the “nigga” (= chamar = blackie in his simple-minded scheme) his slave. He is by objective measure a victim of varna/dharma/shrama,but far from denouncing it, he seeks to place that particular burden on his “nigga” brethren. We are supposed to “accept out lot” as divinely ordained.

    The audacity is staggering, considering the obvious slenderness of his capacity and accomplishment.

    But it is the moral bankruptcy, the hypocrisy that boggles. His is a living example, and in your face, of The Indian Policy in action.

    He accuses you, us, of being “racist”, but he literally cannot see that he is the only one on the blog who fits the definition of racist. For racism is not mere prejudice, it is not merely giving a racial analysis of a racial problem, it is the practice or preaching of a doctrine that seeks to oppress another based on race. He would make us his “chamar”, his slave, then turns around and accuses *us* of racism…

    The trouble is that based on the behaviours that we must put up with, as Guyana, Fiji, Uganda, and elsewhere before us, he is far from being the exception. The wonder is that they seem to expect us to put up with such nonsense. One even gives himself a nom-de-plume that is actually a nom-de-guerre, however tongue in cheek, and we are not supposed to notice…

    May God help us to overcome this problem in our midst, on the basis of submitting humbly and fearlessly to Truth, no matter how ugly, and no matter how much we would seek to deny it in its manifest bitterness.

    Shalom.

    “Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:42-44)

    • “He accuses you, us, of being “racist”, but he literally cannot see that he is the only one on the blog who fits the definition of racist. For racism is not mere prejudice, it is not merely giving a racial analysis of a racial problem, it is the practice or preaching of a doctrine that seeks to oppress another based on race. He would make us his “chamar”, his slave, then turns around and accuses *us* of racism…”—Yoruba

      Chamar is the obsessive, impulsive, construct being promoted by your love interest Alyssa. If you read careful she views you, Kian, Neal and herself as Chamars in the Hindu context. As such you all are at the bottom of the Manu laws. Don’t make it seem like it is my construct, I don’t believe in the caste system. I do believe in “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

      • ….the honestly showcased point here in the film is, that Although Indians as an ethnic group, view Africans as inferior & ‘lesser than’ they are, African
        people (men particularly) view Indian women(as the film shows even those indians that are shunned in amongst their own as ‘lesser’)are viewed by africans as a ‘step up’ (straight hair)…hence the problems in T&T….

        Good point as to what the film-maker intends and portrays.

        As to the reality among our people, the truth is considerably more nuanced, as I’m sure you will quickly concede. My own preference is for the natural look. Possibly because I came of age in the 60s, and my first girl friend had an afro. I have never liked women, of whatever race or skin colour, who look one way the night before, and some way different when all the make-up is off. Unfortunately, many of our women-folk think they have to opt for the Jezebel look to catch a man, rather than the inner beauty that actually matches a natural outer beauty that wears quite well, I find.

        Nevertheless, our women-folk have a problem with hair. That too was prophesied:

        “Therefore Yahweh will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and Yahweh will discover their secret parts.” (Isaiah 3:17)

        As written, so it is. The Book will be fulfilled, as uncomfortable as it is for those of us His Chosen.

        Shalom.

        • Oops! This was responding to Alyssa, not Mamoo and so is out of place in this context…

      • Replying now to Mamoo:

        Chamar is the obsessive, impulsive, construct being promoted by your love interest Alyssa. …

        Not to be unkind, but this is crap. To be kind, the best thing I can do is to ignore the rest of it.

        • Yoruba son if you learn to speak the truth you will serve humanity better. Who has been promoting the Hindu world view on this blog? Who has been finding racist under every mango tree from India to Fiji to Guyana to Trinidad? Who has used the race and racist word the most on these blogs. If you guess that 70 year old “nut case” you are right Yoru my friend.

          I don’t believe in race because I didn’t choose mine, it was a gift given to me by my creator. As for you, Kian, Neal and Alyssa you guys choose your race. You are so adamant about it…. I suppose it is important to you guys because it is all you have. Boohoo.

          • More crap, I’m afraid.

            I can spell out how and why, but I won’t. That will not benefit you, because you are a proven LIAR and convicted by your own mouth as the ONLY racist on this blog. You are a lost cause. And it will not benefit my brethren because they’ve for sure got the picture by now.

            I withhold my peace from you. But to all others, as usual, I say

            Shalom.

            “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:44)

  • “I can spell out how and why, but I won’t. That will not benefit you, because you are a proven LIAR and convicted by your own mouth as the ONLY racist on this blog.” Yoruba.

    Yes but I can disect your parochial views of others especially when you are the one promoting “stories” on this board.
    #1. Your so called “Indian policy” document which you quote over and over again, like a broken record. I ask you for the source-silence. Who wrote such document? With your standard 3 education you refuse to disclose. So because you are a racist wearing a religious robe you kept on quoting from a document that had no source. Even Mr Warner could not disclose any source but he put it in his rag newspaper.
    #2. You kept on saying Indians are the modern day branch of the Edomites and therefore under a curse. You went on to bring out your lineage chart which show nothing but hatred for others outside your race. That is racism. Claiming you are superior to every other tribe.
    #3 You quote scripture out of context to make God a liar because you feel superior to all others. One Scripture you have beaten over and over again is John 8:44. Totally out of context. I don’t belong to the devil and he is not my father, you idiot.

    But those are your poisons and as such you will continue to drink from that murky challace….

    • #1. Your so called “Indian policy” document which you quote over and over again, like a broken record. I ask you for the source-silence…

      Quite the contrary, I give a link to the source. If the document has credibility as representing a sectarian view as the source itself claims, it is because it fits facts known to everyone in this land. If the shoe fits, wear it…

      Another recent event in the news that fits: The Honourable PNM MP and Minister, Camille Robinson-Regis, carries out a transaction with her (Government-owned) bank, next thing Express reporter Anna Ramdass is asking her questions about what the bank is supposed to keep confidential. Obviously, only a source within the bank could have informed Ms. Ramdass. There may or may not be questions to answer concerning that transaction…. there are institutional structures and processes in place for financial and integrity reporting and cross-checks for that purpose. This is not something for anonymous clerks in the bank to leak to the media. But this precisely is what the Indian Policy, item #2: “Our people must undermine this nigga (sic) government from within the ministries and work assiduously in collecting and disseminating information to our personnels (sic)”. Coincidence? I don’t think so. In any case, it is for each reader to consider and make up their own mind.

      Incidentally, item #11 states: “we are superior to them and they must know it.” Is that why you expend so much energy, however futile, trying to convince us that we are but “chamars” to you? Why you keep trying to bring us down to your pitiable “Standard 3” level, where by your own (unintended) admission you spent “years”. Tell us, did you buy a certificate to get out of “Standard 3”?

      #2. You kept on saying Indians are the modern day branch of the Edomites and therefore under a curse. You went on to bring out your lineage chart which show nothing but hatred for others outside your race. That is racism. Claiming you are superior to every other tribe.

      You misattribute. What I have said is that the indo-Aryan, and in particular the brahminists that set up the caste system and untouchability, are *a* branch of the Edomite family tree. I stand by that, based on guidance. The reader is welcome to hear or forebear.

      I also state categorically, and without fear of valid contradiction, that the “Negro” is a branch of the Israelite family tree scattered to the West. Therefore we are Chosen. That is what God says, not I. To recognize that we are so Chosen is hardly a statement of hate, nor is it a claim of superiority.

      As to hate, let us be scripturally clear:

      “Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land.” (Deuteronomy 23:7)

      God makes it plain we are not to hate the Edomite, nor the Egyptian/Hamite among whom we have sojourned, and with whom we are clearly mixed. At the same time, God says that *He* hates the Edomite:

      “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” (Romans 9:13)

      And the reason He hates them may be inferred elsewhere from Scripture. It is Esau’s implacable hatred toward Jacob.

      “And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.” (Genesis 27:41)

      That precisely is the kind of implacable hatred that we see permeating every article of The Indian Policy.

      Were we to requite hate for hate, we too would incur God’s judgment. For the most part, Jacob (the “Negro” in T&T context) preaches peace and love to all, and is blithely unaware to the evil in our midst. Esau (the indo) knows this, which is why we have Leladharsingh famously speaking about “gullible niggers (sic)”. We are a people without guile; Revelation 14:5, John 1:47; gullible to a fault.

      “Yeshua saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!” (John 1:47)

      Now, to be Chosen does not imply superiority. At best it is a rule of order. Queen Elizabeth is not monarch because she is in her person superior to anyone else. She is monarch by a rule of order. That is all. In any case, God is Creator, He can do what He wants, and He set it up like that:

      “For thou art an holy people unto Yahweh thy God: Yahweh thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.” (Deuteronomy 7:6)

      As far as His children now know, we are if anything the wretched of the earth. But like the prodigal son, we are heir to the estate (the kingdom) regardless of our own iniquity and disobedience for which we have been abundantly punished. When the tables turn, as Scripture assures us they will be, Esau will not be able to claim innocence. In any case, God says they will have opportunity to repent, but they simply will not:

      ” And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.” (Revelation 9:20-21)

      The Edomite-Jew proto-Brahminists of Yesua’s day also literally could not hear Yeshua’s word; John 8:43-44.

      Btw, the start of untouchability in India dates back apparently to no earlier than 200 AD, no later than 600 AD, according to the link given us recently by Alyssa. And I continue to maintain, based on guidance; hear or forebear; that the indo-Aryan Edomite did not make his entry into India before the first of the four kingdoms of the Gentiles, which would be ca. 600 BC corresponding to ancient Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar’s sack of Jerusalen. That link giving a start date for untouchability says nothing to vitiate that view.

      #3 You quote scripture out of context to make God a liar because you feel superior to all others. One Scripture you have beaten over and over again is John 8:44. Totally out of context. I don’t belong to the devil and he is not my father, you idiot.

      Like Esau, prideful and hateful to a fault.

      I do not feel “superior to all others”, I feel Chosen by God. There is a big difference. And yes, I will welcome it when even the big Edomite bankers like the Rothschilds will:

      “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.” (Revelation 3:9)

      It will be small recompense for what as a people we have suffered at their hands. The indo-Aryans will likewise have to bow down. That is not what I say, but Holy Writ.

      I withhold my peace from you, but to all others:

      Shalom.

      • First Citizens Bank…the sad reality is that this bank is the descendent of an African Trinidadian co-operstive Bank…look at the staffing of FCB today and tell me what you see?? Or more importantly..wHOM Don’t you see…at the executive level…??….BLACK SKINNED AFRICAN TRINIDADIANS…remember this is where UNC 10 minllion $$ minister Larry Half chinese, Half Indian Howai came from…it is a DISGRACE! Have you been paying attention to that bank’s advertisement of recently hired personnel in the past?? Only light skinned almost whites and indians….as i told you….and africans are expected to bare the shame of keeping this nasty stink secret on behalf of the indian community….Minister Robinson-Regis’ recent experience isn’t separate….ANY time ANY time you put an Indian in charge of ANY type of Organization,or in charge of its hiring processes,whether it be public or private…unless their actions are guided by Africans,
        they WILL do what comes naturally ….RACIALLY Discriminate! Prove me wrong…watch the advertisements for different banks or insurance companies….once an indian is in charge it will be 95% indian and maybe 5% light skin africans… SHAMELESS!…What is also sad is…this experience with the Minister was not the only time…not too long after getting into office, An individual did a transaction at that very same bank and within 2 hours a recent former UNC minister was alerted to the transaftion and blabbed about it….the ethnic profile of that bank and the leaking if the info. Is not a coincidence lnor is it u related….Indians do not see any difference between politics and any other sector of life…this is a major difference between the groups….they will use whatever position they have on behalf of the oarty…shamelessly…could you imagine that?? Leaking transaction info to the press?? To think that african trinidadians exclusively fought for racism from whites to end in private corporations, to suffer the infignity 40 years later of Indians reaping the rewards without fightting for the cause, only to perpetuate the same …no WORSE discrimination against Africans in these same organizations!…Lessons learned?? Be careful what you wish for…When the banks & corporations were All white…to appease the protests they started pu4ting the most technically black people they could find to work in the ‘front’ i.e. Light Skin Africans & eventually Indians…so because africans fought ‘for all’…now….the whites merely passed the baton to Indians & light skin blacks who as you can see today EXCLUDE dark skin africans as much as possible…straight hair-soft hair coalition…Indian scorn & Hatred cannot be
        ignored…
        As a child i used to love going to the Emperor Valley Zoo…it was a sight to behold…serene..good for children…BUTTTTTTTTTTTT It seems to have closed down…Now i see there is a ‘Hindu’/Indian Valley Zoo now… (inspect the staffing there)…same dotishness…Indians,whites and light skin almost whites…did you notice the birth of the two WHITE tiger cubs?? They gave them ‘HINDU’ names…coincidence? This flew right over the heads of the general public…the sheer jo5 for WHITE cubs….and as they were WHITE they needed ‘HINDU’ Brahmanist names for King & Queen respectively (Raja & Rani)…so my grandkids won’t get to see the Emperor Valley Zoo as i did as a child….sad,but TYPICA!…if Karmla had oversaw the renovation of the Red Hous it would have been renamed the Rising Sun Temple…?

        • Don’t bank there if your ethnicity is not prominently featured. As for the Tigers having Indian names don’t go to the zoo. For your standard 3 education, tigers are native to India and was brought from India. So it is expected that they will not have African names or names from massa language. But massa mindset is still controlling you.

          • FCB…that Damned Bank is TAXPAYERS’ Funds!!! Not Straight-haired TAXPAYERS’ Funds….Now, if MooMoo said not to Bank at HCU…i would gladly heed his caĺl…he would be Damned right…though not LEGALLY right…

      • Correction: the Rothschilds are Khazar Jews, not Edomite Jews. Nevertheless, they are still covered by the prophecy of Revelation 3:9, as blasphemously claiming to be Jew when in fact they are not, but are what Yeshua calls the “synagogue of Satan”.

        When Yeshua told the woman at the well that “salvation if of the ‘Jew'”, the reference was not to the so-called and fake Jew referred to at Rev 3:9 and 2:9. The reference was to the southern kingdom of Judah, comprising the Israelite tribes of Judah and Benjamin and Levi in part. Today, Judah is notably and principally the “Negro” scattered to the West, and our Bantu brethren still in Africa today.

        But it is the scattered “Negro” of the West that uniquely fulfills as a people the curse of Deuteronomy 28:25 (“shalt be *removed*…”) as it pertains to our scattering to the West. There simply is no other candidate for its fulfillment; all the other groups of people that came to the West came *voluntarily*.

        Also, as a people, we alone are the fulfillment of Deuteronomy 28:68, which prophesied the trans-Atlantic slave trade in all its particularities. Again, there simply is no other candidate as a people, among all other peoples on the planet, including some of our own Israelite brethren of the seed. Therefore, the “Negro” is Israelite of the seed, and indeed more particularly we are Judah. For it was Judah that was evicted from the Roman province of Judea under Titus in 70 AD, and scattered south into Africa. Within Africa, we scattered into the areas that were not already populated, hence to the West, to the Center, and to the south, as part of the so-called “Bantu expansion”. The Bantu are alluded to in Scripture:

        “From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.” (Zephaniah 3:10)

        The Bantu (His suppliants) are identified as being “beyond” Ethiopia. For when we were scattered into Africa, we could not rest anywhere there was a settled population, such as ancient Egypt (Mizraim) or ancient Kush (Ethiopia). The Bantu expansion occurred beyond Ethiopia, and ipso facto also beyond Egypt (look at the map of Ethiopia and Egypt relative to the land of Israel).

        And from Africa, we were scattered West across the Atlantic. That too is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia seen from the vantage point of Israel. Scripture fulfilled.

        In any case, more to the point, the question as to who today, are the true Judah of Scripture, is answered. It is us, the “Negro”/Bantu. Therefore, when Yeshua said that “salvation if of the ‘Jew'”; John 4:22; he meant us. Certainly, we are in need of it.

        Why? Because we are His Chosen. As His Chosen, God gave us a choice. Either we obey His law, as specified under the Holy Covenant elaborated in Torah, the five books of Moses, and be placed high above all other people; Exodus 19:6, Deuteronomy 7:6, 28:1; OR we disobey, and be placed below all other people:

        “The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.” (Deuteronomy 28:43)

        That is how the indo can come amongst us in T&T, Guyana, Fiji, Uganda, South Africa, Kenya, Mauritius, even Mississippi, and rise high above us. They are neither smarter than we, nor stronger than us. It is at the hand of God that this has happened:

        “Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.” (Deuteronomy 28:32)

        Despite every apparent advantage, there has been “no might in our hand” to stay the onslaught. The Fijians owned the land, and still were brought low. In T&T we owned no land, but we had the benefit of political power at independence and tried “together we aspire, together we achieve”; and we have been brought low. Forbes Burnham wielded political power, and tried the “paramountcy of the party”, and there we were brought low also. Etc. Scripture fulfilled.

        Whom did Yahweh send against us?

        ” Yahweh shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.” (Deuteronomy 28:49-51)

        This is that implacable enemy. This fits Esau, because it was Esau that vowed to slay Jacob: Genesis 27:41 as earlier quoted. Still today he is implacable in his hatred. And God sent him against us in various of the lands to which we have been scattered. It is another branch of the Edomite family tree that seeks to slay our “Negro” brethren in the U.S. (the U.S. “Negro” is tribe of Judah; the West Indian “Negro” is tribe of Benjamin). They are alluded to in the prophetic reference to the “eagle”. It is not coincidence that the U.S. is known by the symbol of the eagle. The dominant branch of the Edomite family tree is “white”; Edomite Jews and WASPs who financed and operated the slave trade, and owned the plantations. But the indo-Aryan branch is not thereby to be missed. They rule over 1.3 billion Indians after all, and have brainwashed such hereditary coolies (by dint of dharma doctrine) that make up the Indian diaspora. In places like T&T, even the hereditary coolies are being given a taste of rulership at the very least through economic ascendancy.

        They in fact suffer the strong delusion of superiority based on race, and based even on skin colour. Such as Mamoo cannot see beyond the tangible… MORNEY and MAMMON is their God. Hence we have item #11 of The Indian Policy: “we are superior to them and they must know it.” Such as Sat Maharaj, brahmin-by-boat, arrogate to themselves the position of the Chosen, such as their envy for Jacob, the real Chosen of God.

        When Yeshua said the meek shall inherit the earth, he meant us, the “Negro”, above whom every stranger, everywhere we have been scattered, have risen. We are the wretched of the earth, as Franz Fanon described us, and the meek of the earth as Yeshua described us.

        Yet, we are the real Chosen of God. The fake Jew, and the fake “Brahmin” both, are in for a rude awakening. For salvation is of the “Negro”. And the real sense of that salvation will be something quite physical. For we shall be raised from being far beneath everyone else, back to being far above everyone else. We shall rise to inherit the kingdom.

        “For Yahweh will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of Yahweh for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.” (Isaiah 14:1-2)

        So let Mamoo and his ilk parse that passage for “context”. I did not write it. But I can guarantee, that just as God has done to His Chosen all what He said He would do for our disobedience, so will He do all that good thing that also He promised He would do.

        And btw, but not incidentally, Yeshua is as described in Scripture also a “Negro” in appearance. When He returns, as I can guarantee He will, all the Gentiles for whom somehow it is essential to their well fabricated delusions that He be “white”, will have the shock of their lives. Regardless, every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess.

        May He have mercy on Esau, they know not what they do. But I fear the Scripture as written will be fulfilled, and Esau has condemned himself already, and will not avail of the opportunity of repentance. None has yet come forward to repudiate The Indian Policy as the work of the devil that it is. Quite the opposite, every indication, day by day, is that they are working the plan, and to their own ultimate destruction. Here is item #10: “We must take Tobago, buy their properties and make them renters, we know the value of land, and this investment will insure (sic) our political control of the island”. May Yahweh teach them, and indeed all of us, the value of real wisdom, which at the least begins with fear of God.

        Shalom.

        “But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.” (Isaiah 42:22)

        But still:

        “And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am Yahweh: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.” (Isaiah 49:23)

        • “Choosen by God” and “Indian policy” his central theme
          Israel as a nation was chosen by God. Being chosen meant a position of power and privilege but it also comes with great responsibility. When you fail to live up to your responsibilities judgement is swift. Yes the Jews were marched into Babylon where they spent 70 years in incredible suffering. Then AD 70 they were driven out of their land and scattered across the world. Then Hitler slaughtered 6 Million. Being chosen does come with its challenges. Yoruba Israel will one day be obliterated too much pride.

          Indian policy is another joke you bring to the table. It is the most laughable document that us out there only your friend Warner could have thought about it.haha

          • Yes the Jews were marched into Babylon where they spent 70 years in incredible suffering. Then AD 70 they were driven out of their land and scattered across the world. Then Hitler slaughtered 6 Million.

            As usual you err not knowing Scripture. Neither history.

            There are a people today who are called “Jew” and are not.

            “… I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” (Revelation 2:9)

            These so-called Jews are the ones occupying the Holy Land today, and are the ones that Hitler had a problem with. They are not of the holy seed.

            The holy seed have been scattered into all kingdoms of the world in accordance with prophecy, and there serve other gods, having lost remembrance of who we are.

            “And Yahweh shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.” (Deuteronomy 28:64)

            Therefore, the actual holy seed will not, repeat not, be recognized as such by virtue of keeping to the laws of the Holy Covenant. That in itself rules out the so-called Jews as being of the holy seed. Rather, as Yeshua warned us at Revelation 2:9, also 3:9, the so-called Jew are in fact the chosen of Satan.

            As to who today are the literal seedline sons of Judah and Benjamin, the Israelites of the southern kingdom, these are today notably and principally the so-called “Negro” scattered to the former British colonies of the West (U.S. and West Indies), under writ of King James wielding the sceptre of Judah. I have elaborated on this elsewhere. Hear or forebear. The main thing is that we the “Negro”/Bantu fuffill, uniquely, the prophecies of Deuteronomy 28:25 and 28:68. There simply is no other candidate as a people. And the curses of Deuteronomy 28:15-68 quite categorically rule out the so-called Jew.

            As to Hitler killing 6 million of the so-called Jew, that is a LIE. That whole story of the gas chamber and the so-called “Holocaust” unravels as soon as one looks at the objective evidence. Google “Robert Faurisson” for an entree into that literature, and his famous challenge so far unanswered to show him one “gas chamber” or even a design of one, that could have done what has been claimed as part of the story of the “Holocaust”.

            Being chosen does come with its challenges. Yoruba Israel will one day be obliterated too much pride.

            Yes being the holy seed does come with its challenges, like suffering under the slave trade for example, and having to suffer the insufferable, like the indo-Aryan sent amongst us:

            “The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.” (Deuteronomy 28:43)

            and

            “Yahweh shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.” (Deuteronomy 28:49-51)

            As I have elsewhere elaborated that people associated with the eagle symbol is the indo-Aryan in our case here in T&T and elsewhere. He is actually our brother, a branch of the Edomite family tree, and an implacable enemy.

            Nevertheless, Yahweh promises His redemption of the holy seed throughout Scripture, for example:

            “For Yahweh will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of Yahweh for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.” (Isaiah 14:1-2)

            Indeed it is prophesied that it is Esau that will be brought down, and in large measure for the sin of pride, not true Israel.

            In that day, we shall all be in the need of mercy. It is only the prideful that will not repent. I certainly will not be counted among the unrepentant. In any case, God be the judge.

            I withhold my peace from you, but to all others, I say

            Shalom.

            “And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.” (Matthew 10:22)

        • Whom did Yahweh send against us?

          ” Yahweh shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.” (Deuteronomy 28:49-51)

          This is that implacable enemy. This fits Esau, because it was Esau that vowed to slay Jacob: Genesis 27:41 as earlier quoted. Still today he is implacable in his hatred. And God sent him against us in various of the lands to which we have been scattered. It is another branch of the Edomite family tree that seeks to slay our “Negro” brethren in the U.S. (the U.S. “Negro” is tribe of Judah; the West Indian “Negro” is tribe of Benjamin). They are alluded to in the prophetic reference to the “eagle”.

          It only later occurred to me that the eagle is an Aryan symbol that goes along with the swastika.

          Shalom.

          • Yoruba, with utmost respect, i must disageee with the ‘holocaust denial’…i personally attended (and hosted) a lecture by a Jewish twin (Brother & Sister) who were rescued minutes before Adolf’s order to ‘exterminate’ all occupants of the concentration camps, on the heels of U.S. and allied forces officially winninng…the only people closest to qualifications to a medical doctor were butchers;prisoners who handled meat as a profession…they handled amputations…the brother had lost two toes on his left foot from frost bite.
            Interestingly…listen carefully…he said that they (Ashkenazi Jewish Holocaust survivors) in the camp were MOST grateful to the AFRICAN AMERICAN soldiers!! Why?? Even though there were whites also in the platoon that rescued them in the nick of time…he said the AFRICANS, upon arrival and seeing the condition they were in EMPTIED THEIR POCKETS and gave them down to their last supplies….cigarettes, rations, water etc….the whites seemed to just be ‘about the mission’…not empathetic(implied)…
            Regarding the topic of ‘fake’ jews(ashkenazi), recent DNA tests revealed that the ‘lemba’ gene in the ashkenazi jews are traced to Jews in Nigeria & South Africa and other African tribes…thus lines up with history that ‘original’ jews (Africans) were mixed with Romans & Greeks, giving birth to what are referred to as ‘fake’ ashkenazi jews….migration and thousands of years of mixing created this…SOoo Ashkenazi Jews a.k.a European jews are merely descendents of The originators of Judaism and jews i.e African people…ALSO…there is historical reference to an entire city of people thiusands of years ago, who CONVERTED to judaism but weren’t genetic descendents..hence the ‘fake’ reference.. that may also be part of the Ashkenazi descendents.

  • Listen to this oilliterate clown…so anything from India deserves a Brahmanist (‘Hindu’) name…? In india there are
    Muslims
    Jains
    Buddhists
    Sikhs
    Christians
    Dravidians
    and many more
    Brahmanism (‘Hinduism’) i.e. ‘Aryan’ culture and names are NOT the only ones NATIVE to India…So Raja & Rani are not Indian names only they are specifically Brahmanist (‘Hindu’) names…and who the HELL are you to tell ME where i can and cannot go?? I am not Vernella Toppin….I am not Nicole Griffith…Neither am i Hazel “Tongue” Browne!…The Emperor Valley Zoo that I used to go to was maintained and operated with TAXPAYERS’ Money…Is the ‘Hindu’ / Indian Valley Zoo paid for and operated with ‘Hindu’ (Brahmanist) Funds?? If not, WHY are TAXPAYERS funds maintaining that sectarian agenda??? Although MooMoo tries to spin & twist the issue…i want to highlight that it was because they were WHITE they were so proud to Slap Brahminist names on them…this is what is lusted after…’Whiteness’ reperesenting the ideology…if it were a Black panther…,it would be named Rawan!

    • Go back to Africa, no Bhramins there, plus you will be much much happier, here you only filled with hat and anger same a Yoruba, Kian and Neal.

      • I wonder what indos like Mamoo in Fiji tell the Fijians… The sectarian problems we have been discussing are after all the same there…

        • You have to defend your love interest on this board all the time. She is an example of what Robbie used to say “you go too Far East you will reach West”. The point is if you can’t fit into a multi ethnic society then you can go to a homogeneous society of your liking. I have moved many times it is no big deal. Yoru your love interest is better suited for the streets of Mogadishu. Where Swahili is the language of choice and the Africana way of life practice daily,

          • You are apparently not only a hereditary coolie according to brahminist caste doctrine, but also a hereditary idiot to go with it. First of all there is no such thing as a country in Africa that is not multi-ethnic. Not only is Africa peopled by many different seedlines of long standing on the continent, moreover scriptural enemies, the indo has taken up residence also wherever the “Negro”/Bantu may be found, in west, central, eastern and southern Africa.

            But in any case, who has said or implied that they cannot fit into a “multi-ethnic society”? Right here in T&T we the “Negro” seem to get along reasonably well with every other ethnicity, indeed to our hurt.

            We indeed are the Israel of scripture in whom there is no guile, rather we are if anything gullible to a fault. The problem is not fitting into a multi-ethnic society, the problem is seeking to “get along” to our own hurt. The problem is that for our love we are requited hate. The problem is that we have been asleep as a people, being bled dry by an implacable enemy. The call is for us to wake up, and at the very least to enforce the terms of the social contract by which the various ethnicities engage each other. By all means let us tolerate each other, as Dr. Williams admonished, but let us not take that to mean that we should allow the recalcitrant sectarian minority leave to “mash up de place” if they are not allowed to rule.

            That is a real problem in T&T. The key evidence of that is the devilish Indian Policy. The rest of the evidence lies in the news reports in the papers almost every other day. I cannot and do not claim that all indos are party to The Indian Policy, but clearly there are enough of that sectarian minority that is working the Policy.

            In any case the racial problem in T&T has been a subject of commentary and even social engineering from their Arrival. The “Negro” in this society is quite simply not the source of the problem, because as a people we are the ones who have preached, and practiced, live and let live.

            The problem that those of us have, whose heavy burden it has been to get to the bottom of the racial and ethnic problem in T&T, is to come to a place of understanding where it is undeniable that the well-spring of the problem is the indo caste mind. That is the charge we lay against you. Even more deeply, the indo-Aryan is a branch of the Edomite family tree, the implacable enemy of Israel, and therefore the “Negro”.

            Obviously, separation is a potential solution, and in particular voluntary or involuntary removal to some other land by one or other of the contending parties. The indo is still a Johnny-come-lately sectarian *minority* in this land. You are in no position (yet) to contemplate, far less suggest that the “Negro” remove himself. If anything, the example to follow must be Naipaul’s, who left T&T never to return, “far away from ‘negroes'”.

            In any case, we the “Negro” are the Chosen of God. For the moment we suffer your hatred and depredations because that is what was written:

            “Yahweh shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, … a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.” (Deuteronomy 28:49-51)

            This precisely (to destroy the “niggas”) is what the Indian Policy set itself the task of accomplishing.

            We will have to suffer you, until such time as God, who put us in this condition, will see fit to save us out of it. But that He will do so is not in doubt.

            At the very least we must hold fast to the social contract that the indo sectarian minority is still invited to join. “Here ev’ry creed and race…”. At the same time, we the “Negro” are not required by our God to accept nor tolerate the covert warfare you are waging, cowardly, in our midst.

            We are not going anywhere. We are not asking you to go anywhere. At least I have heard no such voice raised.

            But be warned there will certainly be consequences to your errant behaviour. As a Servant of God, from amongst His Chosen, what I can guarantee, because written, is that it is the indo who will come out the worse. This is the blessing granted to Jacob/Israel:

            “Let people serve thee, and nations bow down to thee: be lord over thy brethren, and let thy mother’s sons bow down to thee: cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee.” (Genesis 27:29)

            More specifically still, despite suffering the curses for our disobedience, Holy Writ establishes:

            “For Yahweh will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of Yahweh for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.” (Isaiah 14:1-2)

            Even after our redemption as a people, you will notice that we will live as a “multi-ethnic” society (“strangers shall be joined with them”). But what will be for sure is that we as a people will be set “high above all other nations”; Exodus 19:5-6, Deuteronomy 28:1, elsewhere. The quoted passage says that “Israel shall possess them”. That is Holy Writ, not what I say. Those that made of us a prey will find themselves at the receiving end.

            Also:

            “Therefore hear now this, thou afflicted, and drunken, but not with wine: Thus saith thy Lord Yahweh, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people (notably we the “Negro”), Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.” (Isaiah 51:21-23)

            God is a just God after all. His punishments are equal, and tend to be exactly in kind.

            When the day of judgement comes, –and it will,– your sectarian mischief such as recorded in The Indian Policy, will be remembered before God. Your denials, and protestations of innocence will do you no good on that day, unless of course you repent and change your ways… Or if as individuals you denounce and dissociate yourself from the collective evil.

            Until then, from you I withold my peace. But unto all others, I say

            Shalom

      • Mamoo, I notice that you are advising us to go back to Africa. At the same time, you are trumpeting the advancements in India. How bout a bet!!!. If you go back to the ‘Advanced India’ in the morning, I will pack up immediately and go to Africa. You know why? I notice that your good friend and comrade, Vasant Bharath, with his real Indian wife, chose to go to Africa and not the
        Advanced India. I wonder why? Is it because the future of the world rests with Africa? I don’t see too many nationalities rushing to go to India. Maybe you can take the opportunity to go, before there is a real rush to go there. Tell you what Mamoo!!! There will never be any rush to go there, the real rush is to go to Africa. But then again, you don’t really read economic news. May be you should have a chat with Bharat.

        • Kian the mother land is where the heart finds comfort. If you are not comfortable in sweet TnT then you can live in dungy apartment in Brooklyn. A lot of people move the world we live is far different from the one we grew up in.
          If you cant live in a multi ethnic society, they you can move where you feel more comfortable. Thousands of African Americans moved back to Africa mainly in the country Liberia. I am not trying to be silly or impute anything ontoward. A lot of Nigerians are coming and living in TnT, so to Jamaicans.

          I never said anything about wanting to go anywhere I am quite comfortable where I am. I may one day move again. I have moved over 10 times. I have not problem moving.

        • Mamoo will never go back to India because there he will be recognized and treated as a hereditary caste coolie.

          He will aggrandize India from afar, seeking to boost his status relative to the knee-gahs he finds himself among. But at best he would visit India, then run away as fast as he can back to T&T where he can (hope to) redefine himself into a higher status.

          The irony is that he owes that possibility to Eric Williams and PNM policy; it is only thereby that the hereditary caste coolie may escape his otherwise brahminist ordained “dharma”. Mamoo will be quite unable, brainwashed as he is, to see the irony.

          As to Vasant Bharath, he also will never return to India, because there is no such family or caste name in India as “Bharath”. Bharat (alternative spelling) *means* India. Therefore it will be obvious to every Indian that he is hiding his caste origin, and further that only one of low caste would seek to do so.

          Same for Sat Maharaj. There is no family or caste name as Maharaj in India, which is a title meaning roughly “king”. Btw, I *know* this from the mouth of a caste Hindu I met in India.

          The brahmins-by-boat will be the very last to return to India. For their part, the hereditary caste coolies will simply not accept returning to their former caste status.

          The indos in T&T, even if kicked out, will not return to India. That I can guarantee. The indos kicked out by Idi Amin went everywhere else, –even to Mississippi,– except India.

          In any case, I don’t think the expulsion of the indo is the solution to our problems as a people. We are the Chosen. In that is our Promise of Redemption, and for the time being, our Curse due to disobedience. If we return and obey God, the devilish Indian Policy will be of none effect. They can try, but they cannot fight against God’s people, and hope to prevail except temporarily.

          Shalom.

          “Therefore hear now this, thou afflicted, and drunken, but not with wine: Thus saith thy Lord Yahweh, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.” (Isaiah 51:21-23)

  • Yoruba,
    Are you familiar with the insufferable “Mr. Penal” who calls in on the radio?? He admitted to being a former teacher at the Maha Sabha schools…yeah…that piece of TRASH??…THAT is Mamoo!

    Take note of bow all the hosts…from Mariano to Kwesi on iralphmaraj.5 fm…they treat Mr. Penal like an ‘Honoured’ guest BUTTTTTTTTTT they smite down other africans who contest his racist diatribe wrapped in a blanket of soft,slow talking ‘opinion’…

    • As Gandhi said to the racist in South Africa ” you will find there is room for all of us”. I highly recommend the movie Gandhi I look at it one or twice per year in October and January. It is over 2 hrs but well worth it. Ben Kingsley did justice to that role, it is available on YouTube.

    • Alyssa as I wrote in an earlier blog, that I think Ghana is one of the best African nations. I have friends form Ghana. Most African Americans return to Ghana. You can do the research. There you would not have to meet a Brahmin.
      http://www.un.org/africarenewal/magazine/april-2015/african-americans-resettle-africa

    • I don’t listen much to radio, and I watch tv even less. I catch I95 when I’m visiting with family, so I’m at least familiar with the main talk shows. And I do recall a “Mr. Penal”, but vaguely. If it is who I think it is, “insufferable” is the right description.

      The phenomenon that you mention … slapping down callers that seem too robust in defending or advancing a …shall we say… creole view, while listening respectfully to any crap coming from … shall we say… Central… is curious to say the least. Why? I think it’s because the “creole” accepted the founding PNM national myth, “Together we aspire, together we achieve”. That’s why Manning was always “looking for ah Indian”. The trouble is that already at the founding the sectarian indo minority declared a covert war on the majority host population: “Buy land, because he who owns the land owns the country!” was a mantra spoken by them to my knowledge already in the 50s and 60s.

      Even in Tobago: Item #10 of The Indian Policy: “We must take Tobago. Buy their properties and make them renters, we know the value of land, and this investment will insure (sic) our political control on the island”.

      Now Mr. Penal is advocating the same for East Port of Spain…

      Shalom.

      • Item #10 in the Yoruba policy. If you are citizen of TnT you can buy property anywhere regardless of your ethnicity. You go from Penal to Debe you will find about 20 Chinese restaurants and grocery. Nobody knows if they are citizens.

        • You seek to evade the point. Not effectively, however. You are too transparent.

          Of COURSE one may buy property anywhere as a citizen. That is not the issue. The issue is that the indo is waging a covert war against the non-indo. One of the battlefields of that war is land ownership. Ownership is sought, with the INTENT of dispossessing the knee-gah. That is the issue.

          I see you do not deny it.

          May the Most High expose the miscreants who crafted and seek to foist the devilish Indian Policy upon this land, may the Policy fail in every one of its objectives, and may it return upon the heads of those who pursue it.

          Shalom.

          “He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.” (Revelation 13:10)

          • As a citizen, I repeat you are entitled to buy land anywhere in the twin island republic.
            With oil dropping like a sack of potato, Tobagonians the younger ones will soon journey elsewhere. If they come to Trinidad should they be denied housing or land? Absolutely not, they are entitled to the privilege of citizenship as anyone else. The honorable Prime Minister is a Tobogonian he has property in Trinidad, which he is entitled to. Please Yoruba stop your racist nonsense.

  • Mamoo is lying about the Wismar Guyana issue. I went and did some research on it. Guyanese Indians lie like cheap watches about these issues because they seek a rationale for their racism.

    There was racial strife, and it started off when Indian supporters of the PPP in celebrating their party victory in an early 60s election killed a young black policeman. Eusi Kwayanna documents this in his writings, but although Indians are quick to quote him when he is critical of Burnham, they do not do so when he is critical of the PPP.

    The Sun Chapman, a launch that transport people to McKenzie was bombed killing 47 people, all of them black. This is what set off the Wismar strife in which three Indians were killed. Never mind Mamoo’s exaggeration. You know that Indians claim that it is ok to cheat at exams, but they also believe that it is ok to lie. You see this trait all the time with Mamoo.

    • ALSO, Rodwell…as i made the point in my initial commentary, ANYBODY who has any real experience and knowledge with African caribbean culture & Indian culture (wherever Indians migrate to)…which ethnic group do you think this objective ibserver would expect to initiate or instigate a violent ethnic confrintation? Africans (christianity) or Indians (‘Hinduism’ and hindu converts to Islam & Christianity)..??? Hmmmm? In india muslims are documented and videotaped practicing caste just as Indian christians…does christianity preach hate & scorn for Indians?? Does Hinduism preach hate & scorn for Dark skinned, african featured peopl?e?? Which is true??…the answer is the origin of Guyana’s history of eth ic violence…as T&T is on the path to follow as we speak!

  • Indians like Mamoo, when they make these claims of black men raping Indian Women, what they are exhibiting is a pathological fear of the black male sexuality and masculinity. They look at us, at our reflection of the original form of the human being, and summon up all of their Freudian psychological defense mechanisms to provide some rational for their perverted sexual inadequacies. That is why their propaganda will always include some sexual connotation involving black men and Indian women. Maybe they just wish to be those women. Lol

    • Welcome back Rodwell. I know at least 3 Indian women married to black men, I am good friends with them. The Indian women keep those long eye seed planters in line. The black women cannot control the black man but Indian women know how to manage their posterior well. Make that 4…

  • Rodwell, welcome back (genuinely)…Thank you for squeezing the ooze out of Mamoo’s pimple (brain)…Do not disregard his boast about indian women controlling African men…it sadly is true (i made this point a while back)…whenever african men in T&T get a non-africa wife, he is so elated, that he seeks to be accepted by HER family & community by furthering THEIR ethno-political agenda (including Support forthe UNCOPP). Juliet Davy spoke truth whe she called out the mannerisms of Indian women! She could have articulated it MORE and broadened the scope a bit…she said that indian women are used by their community to destroy African men…i woukd have said control….it is a commin tactic…Botha, south africa’s apartheid president, gave an infa ous speech where he confidently asserted that African men were hungry for white women and so he would send out female (white supremacy) ‘agents'(diseased whores) to infect the African men, who would in turn infect their women and the entire community would falter…with Indian women, that is not the goal…the goal is to CONTROL…use HIS resources(wealth,influence etc) to benefit HER family and ethnic group (i witnessed this on numerous occasions) it is
    a culture…a way of thinking…I know of a Bajan man, who met,fell in love with, and brought a guyanese indian woman to live with him…after a period of time, he came home to a locked house with another man and a child living there…she got that fool to sign over his house and property in her name and then she brought over her ‘REAL’ family….he broke doswn and related the story to his professor and some classmates at U.W.I. barbados….it is a culture…a way of thiniing that is foreign to africans in the caribbean…it is alleged that ‘Patrick’ fell victim to this ‘control’…which resulted in UNC hardcore sycophants being allowed unto state boards and entities because they were friends and family members of the ‘controller’…see?? Disastrous consequences in politics & community!

  • Mamoo:

    ….Tobagonians the younger ones will soon journey elsewhere. If they come to Trinidad should they be denied housing or land? Absolutely not, …

    There can be no objection to individuals engaging as loyal citizens in buying/sellling land or other property. No one has suggested otherwise.

    The problem with respect to Item #10 of the Indian Policy is that the usual disloyal sectarian minority proposes to dispossess the knee-gahs in Tobago of generational land in their possession. It is part of covert warfare being waged against the creole host. The only defence against such aggression is an alert host.

    I note that under a different guise — “gentrification” for lack of a better term — you are proposing the same for East Port of Spain and Laventille: to disposses the knee-gahs there as a “solution” to the crime problem.

    … Please Yoruba stop your racist nonsense.

    The Indian Policy preaches a doctrine of racial oppression, literally calling on indos to “make the niggahs (sic) your slavess”. That fits the definition of racism. To expose and denounce the racist Indian Policy is anti-racist. “Here ev’ry creed and race…” is the anti-racist position that I defend. Still. As my God requires.

    From you I withhold my peace. To all others I say

    Shalom.

    “I will put it (the cup of trembling) into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.” (Isaiah 51:23)

    • The Africana race in TNT has savoured the fat of the for 37 years of uninterrupted rule. Now they are in charge again. Here is what was done upon assuming office.
      The no big thing PNM vision….

      “When they increased Fuel by 15% they told you is no big thing you would only have to pay $120 more per month to fill your tank.
      When they increased VAT by 12.5% they told you is no big thing you would only have to pay $50 more per month in grocery bill.
      When they increased Mortgage Rates they told you is no big thing you would only have to pay $300 more per month in mortgage
      Now they telling you Property Tax is no big thing you would only have to pay $120 more per month in Tax..
      Well, if you add up all the “no big things” you are going to get “one big thing” $590.00 more per month and that is using their “no big thing” figures. It’s actually a lot more than that.”

      That my friends are what you really have to be afraid of.

      • Such a blinkered view. Such a blinkered mind. Unable to “see” anything beyond the tangibility of the five senses…

        I’m not un_interested in the price of fuel and the VAT on food and such matters. But these matters are misplaced in the present context of a disguised and cowardly indo sectarian warfare, arising out of indo caste animus, and foretold in Scripture as a variant of Esau’s (= Edomite indo-Aryan) implacable envy and hatred of Jacob/Israel (= the “Negro” in T&T).

        MORNEE is your God, not mine. And we, the “Negro”, as a people, have had to learn to make do with very little, least of all money, and still not only live and let live, but to become the very soul and heartbeat of every kingdom to which we have been scattered. If we have to tighten our belts due to the unprecedented scale of thievery of the Queen Bandit and her 40 thieves, now morphed into actual economic sabotage (that ploy may be found in THe Indian Policy too) then so be it. We have suffered and risen above worse. We will do so again as necessary.

        Btw, the chances of any variation of UNC claiming those two seats in Tobago will remain between slim and none for at least the next 20-30 years.

        And what we have to be afraid of, as the Chosen, is the living God. Nothing else. Everything else is for a sign and a wonder, that we may return unto Him and do and keep His law. We are not chosen for our good looks, although that we have in abundance (God said so, we are made in His image after all, down to the black skin and woolly hair) but to be unto Him a “kingdom of priests”. We approximate that role with our calypso for example, but the task for us is to fill that role on the basis of knowledge, not mere idle opinion. Even so, our better artists like Stalin and Rudder often come close to being true prophets, while being entertaining at the same time. That is not an easy accomplishment, though their gift is such that they make it look easy. But what did Yeshua say to the Edomite Pharisees? (We know they were Edomite because they were of Abraham’s seed, but had been in bondage to no man, ruling out Israelite seedline):

        “Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:43-44)

        You will continue not to hear nor understand, for that is what Yeshua said to the Edomite proto-Brahminists of His day. But as for we the “Negro”, the only thing we have to fear is the great God that made us His Chosen. It has been at His hand that our feet have known no rest these last 2,000 years… as He had His servants the prophets, our “Negro” ancestors, to warn us…

        I withhold from you my peace, but unto all else I say

        Shalom.

        “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” (Hebrews 10:31)

        • All yuh have is a lot of hate in you. Never once quote a scripture such as “God is love”, “God is light and in him there is no darkness”…. For you it only about taking scriptures out of context to insult others.

          • As I said, you literally cannot hear the word of God:

            “That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of Yahweh: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.” (Isaiah 30:9-11)

            My God does not allow me to “prophesy deceits”, nor speak “smooth things” that prideful egos may not be bruised. The truth that I speak is primarily for my “Negro” brethren, but it is a witness also to my Edomite indo-Aryan brethren, that they may know that their very specific misbehaviour is called out before God. If you would simply hear, you could save yourselves. But Yeshua has already let us know that there are those (Edomites) who literally cannot.

            Btw, Yeshua said “blessed are the peace-makers”. To make peace, it is necessary first to speak truth, not so? You do not get peace by speaking with forked tongue.

            I am proud of my “Negro” forebears in this land who offered the indo and all others a simple formula for peace: “Here ev’ry creed and race finds an equal place”. Our God demands no less.

            THe caste minded indo rejects that simple formula for peace, because he hates the “Negro” as “inferior”. That is the core evil of The Indian Policy that is clearly being advanced by the indo sectarian minority.

            This does not apply to all indos, obviously. Those who acknowledge the evil, denounce it and dissociate themselves from it will be blessed accordingly.

            I withhold my peace from you, but to all others I say

            Shalom.

            “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (Revelation 18:4)

          • Let it be made quite plain. The most likely repositories for racial prejudice are those who come from a heritage where such beliefs are embedded in their religious or cultural understandings. There is no African religious or cultural belief system that rank people according to their physical appearance.

            The first social stratification system base on racism and prejudice was formed in India, and no one from there is free of the tentacles of the beliefs under which it was formed. Mamoo is like those members of the Klan who are always offering the ludicrous contention that blacks are racist against them. You see folks, the mind of Mamoo is so disfigured that unless black people accept his Bramhinian status, it means that they are racist.

            Indians engage in the most vicious and callous forms of racial behaviors against Africans, but you will find them screaming and complaining about racism in places like Australia and the UK. They believe that it is their divine right to be racist, and also their divine right not to be held accountable for the nasty trait that has been with them for centuries.

  • Alyssa,

    Thank you for your respectful and sincere objection to my “holocaust denial”. But I hold my ground. I went fairly far down that rabbit-hole about 10 years ago.

    I am persuaded scripturally that the so-called Jew are in fact not the holy seed, but rather are the synagogue of Satan (the chosen of Satan):

    “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan” (Revelation 2:9).

    There simply is no other candidate for fulfillment of that prophecy but the so-called Jew of today (Khazar/Ashkenazi Jew, Edomite Jew, Sephardic Jew). That is one.

    Second, as to Hitler and these same so-called Jews, I am persuaded that the so-called Holocaust is a LIE. There was no “extermination order”. At the very least such an extermination order has never been produced in evidence, and if it existed, it would have been known because the Allies had broken the German Enigma code, and had all the orders issued to the Concentration Camp commanders; see this video clip where Ursula Haverbeck, a very brave German scholar is interviewed on these matters.

    There were no gas chambers that could physically have been used to accomplish the deed of killing six million so-called Jews. See Robert Faurisson’s challenge: Show me a gas chamber.

    That six million number is a propaganda concoction. They have been claiming that figure since 1914! See this 1914 article from the New York Times.

    As to the genetic evidence, the Cohen modal haplotype (CMH) is observed amongst the priestly families of the so-called Jews. That I accept as true. This CMH gene is passed on along the paternal line, and may well be a marker transmitted by Aaron, the brother of Moses, and the first high priest. But the source of that gene is easily explained. Aaronic priests are known to have been used to convert the Khazar Jews en masse. Likewise they were used to convert the Sepharvaim; 2Kings 17:27. And the Edomite Jews were converted by Hyrcanus. Along with the conversion, Aaronic seed mixed physically with the converted population, and their offspring carried on the priestly tradition. Thus the CMH gene occurs amongst the Cohens — priestly famililies by tradition, not amongst the fake Jew populations as a whole. The case of the Lemba is different. The occurrence frequency of the CMH gene amongst them applies to the entire Buba clan. They do not speak of some ancient conversion, rather to be scattered Israelites of the seed, in particular of the tribe of Levi, explaining their tribal name: Levi -> Le’ba -> Lemba as a process of phonetic drift. THe Lemba are true Israelite of the seed; the so-called Jew are not, despite the occurrence of the CMH gene amongst their Cohain.

    The story of the empathy shown by the “Negro” soldiers is touching. And I’m sure, true. However, the fake-Jew twins were engaged in skilful brainwashing of their “Negro” (I presume) audience.

    THis is a critical question for our people. As long as we think the fake Jew is the real Jew, we the “Negro”, as a people will not accept that we are in fact the real Israelite of Scripture, in particular of the southern kingdom tribes of Judah (AMerican “Negro”) and Benjamin (West Indian “Negro”), the holy seed.

    Btw, I continue to prefer the term “Negro” over “African”. Both are wrong, which is why in my usage I put “Negro” within quotes, implying we are *so-called* “Negro”. It is one of the bywords by which we would become known, as was prophesied; Deuteronomy 28:37. But “Negro” is less wrong than “African”, because the term “African” embraces all the various peoples of Africa, and the “Negro”/Bantu are but one of many “African” peoples, some of whom are our scriptural enemies. It is a curious irony that we deprecate the term “Negro” and ascribe greater dignity to the term, “African”, which embraces our enemies, and in particular those — Ishmaelite Arabs, black Hebrew Edomites, black Hamitic tribes — that kidnapped and enslaved us. I don’t see the sense in that.

    We the “Negro” are of the literal physical seed of Israel. We are the “holy seed” spoken of in Scripture. Our true tribal designation is “Israelite”, in particular of the southern kingdom of Judah, embracing the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and half of Levi.

    Also, *please* don’t confuse matters by referring to Israel as “African”. Africa is a land-mass, not a seedline. In all our sojourning, we carry our seedline with us. It is a nonsense to suppose we carry a land-mass with us. In any case, the Holy Land is outside of the physical land-mass today known as “Africa”. Please let us not start now arguing over boundaries. To self-identify with a land-mass, I submit, is a snare and delusion. Equally, to self-identify with a skin colour — black, white, brown, yellow, red — likewise is a snare and delusion. Today, Israelites of the seed will be found in all skin colours. And our enemies, the Edomites, Ishmaelites, Hamites, likewise will be found in all skin colours. We must learn to see beyond skin colour, and to “test the spirit”.

    Shalom.

    • Yoruba,
      Firstly, the term ‘Holocaust Denial’ wasn’t my term to denigrate your position…when delving in the scholarship of the Holocaust, apparently there are at least two camos of thought:
      (1)Thise who believe
      (2) Thise who don’t and they are officially termed “Holocaust Denial”…a term even they seem to accept

      Secondly, There Re two distinct issues that you raised
      (1)Holocaust Didn’t happen(no mass extermination)
      (2) The NUMBER of lives taken was inaccurate or ‘padded’

      As i stated, not merely being politically correct, but from what i have read an as i pointed out talking with survivors…i BELIEVE! However, as for if the AMOUNT Deaths were padded, i do not know nor can i rebut the accusation…i guess it is possible that there was an exagerration in terms of number for a myriad of reasons BUTTTTTTTTTT it wouldn’t take away from the SUBSTANCE of the horrific event.
      Also, to be quite hinest i do not have ALL the facts, so i cannot debate those specific issues. As for the term “African” which is not the traditional indigenous name for the continent (i know) similar to Egypt (greek name after their colonial takeover) The name of the land of those pyramids was called Kemet. BUTTTTTTTTTTTT, yoruba…i am aware that the SUBSTANCE of what i say has to reach the consciousness of the UNconscious…the term african to me, is like how indians are referred to geographically as SUB-continentals BECAUSE the region encapsulates the people we are referring to..it is a necessary generalization to let the less educated know WHAT & WHOM we are referring…you ARE correct BUTTTTTTTTTT in T&T there are those who came from “Africa”, hence africans….they came from That speciric continent at specific times….not of the same seedline or peoples (Tribe). Similarly,neither Chinese,Indian,Latin nor European are races.it is a
      generalization…BUTTTTTTTTTTTT Necessary until the masses are up to speed on the depth of knowledge which you provide. SIMPLICITY can lead to COMPLEXITY which you desire….
      shalom

      • Alyssa,

        Re Holocaust denial, I don’t much mind the term, although I’m aware that it is the synagogue of Satan that advances the term to put the opposition at a disadvantage.

        I’m more interested in the historical truth of it. I don’t have a dog in that fight, because no one has required me or my people to pay any reparations. So I’m happy to accept whatever may be the Truth of the matter.

        If there was no extermination order, then there was no Holocaust. The Allies got *all* the orders sent down to the concentration camp commanders from the time the Enigma code was broken, July 9, 1941. There have found no extermination order.

        Lots of people died, it was war. I accept as the historical fact of the matter that those in the camps died toward the end of the war because German infrastructure and resources were devastated. Therefore, the internees suffered starvation and disease. The pictures of the dead and living in the liberated camps showed evidence precisely of starvation and disease. They did not show evidence of prisoners having been gassed en masse. And again, I am not aware that anyone, from 1962 till now, has answered Faurisson’s challenge. If you have evidence to the contrary from your twins or otherwise, I beg you to bring it.

        I did not mention the Red Cross figures. They had regular access to the camps during the war. Their figures show something like 300,000-500,000 deaths due to all causes.

        THERE WAS NO HOLOCAUST!!! No extermination order, no “gas chambers” = NO HOLOCAUST!!.

        Why the so-called Jews would lie about it is another matter. It’s not hard to see how they would benefit from the lie. REPARATIONS for one. The emotional blackmail of the German people and indeed the whole world, for another. It is actually a legal offense in Germany, France, Canada and other places, to “deny the holocaust”. That should tell you something. The truth of a historical matter does not need law to defend it.

        I read somewhere recently where even the liberators of the camps, the AMericans, have been blackmailed into paying reparations, not just free-will annual contributions to the state of Israel which they continue to pay to this day. The Holocaust is a money-making industry, sad to say.

        NO my sister, you have been LIED to. Check out the links I’ve given if you are seriously interested in learning the Truth of the matter. I’m sure your twins gave you no evidence whatsoever of any extermination order, and no evidence of any actual homicidal gas chamber. Just a lot of emotionally charged brainwashing. Do as Frau Haverbeck suggests: treat it as a crime, and ask for the evidence. If you find any, I would be all ears. But I won’t hold my breath waiting.

        Re “African” vs “Negro”, I hear you, but I’m not persuaded. I am trained as an engineer and mathematician. I try to be precise with concepts and categories. Wrong concepts lead to avoidably wrong results. In engineering matters, people can die as a result. I notice historians and sociologists are much more cavalier in their definitions of categories than I’m used to and expect. Terms and categories are agenda-laden there I find. Politically correct.

        For some reason, the term “Negro” became politically incorrect. But it was replaced by “African”, which may be more politically correct, but is clearly confusing as to denotation. I disapprove. If your categories of thought are incorrect, you *will* sooner or later be led into wrong thought.

        You say different tribes were brought over as part of the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Yes, but we were all “Negro”/Bantu. The Ishmaelite Arabs were not brought over. The black Hebrew Edomites were not brought over. The Hamites were not brought over. These “Africans” participated in and benefited from the slave trade. The “Negro” Yahudi were the victims.

        I visited Elmina Castle in Ghana. I saw the “Door of no return”. The Ashanti to their credit, have apologized for their role in the slave trade, and have offered reparations in the form of land grant in a place called Fihankra. I was there, for the enstoolment of the first (AMerican “Negro”) chief. I do not hold any animosity toward the Ashanti, at least they have offered reparations. Who else has done so? But you do not offer apologies nor reparations for a heinous crime of which you are not guilty. Yes, they are a Hebrew people with Hebrewistic traditions, but they are Hebrew Edomite, not Israelite.

        When you call us “African”, you lump us in with everybody on that continent, — and in particular with those responsible for our enslavement –, when in fact we are different, have been treated as different, and have a different destiny. If our categories of thought do not recognize and make necessary distinctions, we *will* be led into error. That is the nature of thought itself.

        I will continue with “Negro”, along with “Israelite”, Judah, and Benjamin. Our people will come around. It is part of a prophesied awakening taking place.

        Don’t try to make God a liar. You’ll lose.

        But He is patient, and forgiving. We’ll all come around eventually. Just don’t be one of the rebels:

        “And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am Yahweh.” (Ezekiel 20:38)

        Right thought requires right categories, not political correctness. Political correctness leads to wrong thought. Wrong thought leads to rebellion against the Most High. As Bob Marley sang, we’ve got to free our mind. If your mind is not free, your a** still in a sling. Btw perhaps the biggest wrong idea suffusing wrong thought is the theory of evolution, and the entirely wrong idea that mankind “originated” in Africa, and evolved up and out of Africa. But that’s another story for another time…

        Shalom.

        “For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring: And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses. One shall say, I am Yahweh’s; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto Yahweh, and surname himself by the name of Israel.” (Isaiah 44:3-5)

      • P.S.

        And let me not forget to add as another motive for the claimed Holocaust:

        It was a way to get masses of ordinary so-called Jews to decamp from Europe, and to “return” to the so-called state of Israel, furthering the political Zionist project.

        In that light, the Holocaust LIE may be seen as a psy-op of the Zionist elites. An important, if not primary, target of that psy-op are ordinary so-called Jews. Certainly the Khazar Jews who are now the majority in Israel know they are not of the holy seed; see 1) Arthur Koestler, The 13th Tribe; 2) Shlomo Sand, The Invention of the Jewish people; and online, see this History of the Khazar Empire by Jack Otto.

        Shalom.

      • P.P.S.

        Now hear this! Now hear this!

        Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars… (March 12, 2016).

        That is not the end of the story. They’re claiming to be *both* Khazar and Hebrew. That is a nonsense of course. But they are using Khazar ancestry to try to reclaim Crimea!

        Why? Because the Crimea is key to control of the Black Sea. After the recent coup in Ukraine, Russia took back Crimea. That removed one constraint on the Russian Black Sea fleet. The other constraint is Turkish control of the Bosporus, the entry-way to the Mediterranean. International fake-Jewry want to take back Crimea to put that constraint back on Russia. So Israel is re-exporting Khazar Jews back to Ukraine, and in particular back to Crimea.

        We’ll see how this plays out.

        Shalom.

  • Re “Holocaust denial”

    Alyssa,

    In looking up this subject again I came across a very interesting documentary, “Adolf Hitler – The Greatest Story Never Told”. It comprises 27 parts each about 15 mins long. Long but compelling viewing.

    The issue of the claimed so-called “holocaust” is only part of the story, and covered in parts 19-22. Here is the link to Part 20, which addresses some of the holocaust claims. They are in my view bogus, as I have opined. You have seen (the fictional) Schindler’s List, and other incessant Holocaust propaganda produced by Hollywood, as have we all. Here is a view from the other side.

    From the prophecy standpoint, there is a long story here which I will not attempt to elaborate. The short of it is that ‘Judea’ (fake-Jew) declared war on Germany, and won. From a prophetic standpoint, all we need know is that the “International Jewry” that won the war is the entity referred to in Scripture as the “synagogue of Satan”. Yes they quite effectively put the blame on Hitler and indeed the Germans as a people. But Satan is a liar and deceiver, if nothing else. Thus the “wrong” side won, but only because for the time being the “earth is given into the hand of the wicked” (Job 9:24). Their comeuppance is yet to come and not far away.

    That means btw, — and I’m so guided, hear or forebear,– that the German people are in large part Israelite of the seed, and in particular of the tribe of Judah. They are seedline brethren of the American so-called “Negro”.

    That may sound fanciful. Take it or leave it, as you choose. That also means that the whole “Aryan” thing as it relates to the German people is a myth. First of all there is a strong “Negro” strain amongst the Germans, moreover amongst the nobility; e.g see Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. Second, the blonde “Nordic” strain is actually Israelite of the seed, not “Aryan”.

    Hitler was mistaken about that in the same way that so many of us “Negro” are mistaken in thinking that we are of the ancient Egyptian stock: it is letting the wish be the father not only of the thought but also the ideology.

    At any rate the fake-Jews got seedline Israelites on both sides of the conflict to slaughter each other, and then on top of that to permanently vilify the German people. “Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms” (Jeremiah 51:20)

    There is plenty there to chew on, and to prove the matter scripturally, historically, phenotypically, temperamentally and every other way, would be a huge undertaking. I do not attempt it.

    I’ll only say that if you take the time to go through the entire documentary (about six hours’ viewing) you will be surprised to learn, given Hollywood brainwashing and stereotyping, that the Germans were valiant warriors who often acted with a noble restraint against the enemy (cf. the Billy Blanks character in that Thai video clip recently that Kian commented upon). In that they share a character trait of the “Negro”: the empathy that you commented upon.

    I’ll only add to that these two tidbits: (1) there were actually black Nazi soldiers fighting for Hitler, and (2) Jesse Owens contradicted the lie told that Hitler disrespected him because of his race (I may post a link to that). What else have the fake-Jews lied to us about?

    Shalom

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