Destiny in our hands

By Raffique Shah
January 27, 2016

Raffique ShahAs a nation, we can do nothing about the plunging price of oil except watch with alarm as crude slides below US $30 a barrel.

Even if we ramp up production, which has fallen by approximately 50 per cent over the past decade, it will make little sense. At this point, it might be better to leave the oil in the wells rather than sell it for peanuts.

Besides depressed prices for oil, gas and petrochemicals, we also watch with dismay as China’s economy stalls (hence less demand for commodities), North America and Europe enjoy a relatively mild winter (lower use of fuels for heating), and other developments that signal to us that Trinidad and Tobago faces its biggest economic crisis since the 1980s-1990s.

So what can we do other than sit back and hope for divine intervention?

We could choose the “Burnham option”. The late Guyanese dictator Forbes Burnham, faced with an imminent military threat from Venezuela, is said to have rallied his troops with the battle cry, “Back to back, belly to belly, we don’t give a damn, we done dead already!”

Or we could play the blame game, point fingers at politicians who looted the Treasury and wasted the oil-bounty when prices were high. Even if we hold them to account, jail some of them, that won’t alter the price of cocoa…or oil.

I suggest we look at things we can do that will make T&T a better country.

With respect to corruption, we the people must start by refusing to bribe any public official for services we are entitled to, from driving permits to land deeds, housing to places in schools that our children deserve based on merit.

We must hold Prime Minister Keith Rowley accountable for any wastage or corruption that occurs under his watch. The PNM was elected to office largely because the PP Government was seen as corrupt to the core, and he, Rowley, said that if he became PM, he would stamp out wastage and corruption.

If we eliminate corruption that has long been considered an integral part of doing business in the country, we can save hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe even billions, annually.

Score one on the positive side of the Exchequer’s balance sheet.

Then there is the multi-billion-dollar sleeping giant-productivity and the national work ethic, or lack thereof.

If we are brutally honest with ourselves, we will admit that among the majority of the workforce, and that runs from the shop floor to executive suites, productivity runs at maybe 50 percent, and I am being generous here.

The national work ethic is defined by us doing the least we can to not get fired or suffer loss of income. Our motto seems to be “least work, most pay”. We take every manner of leave that is available to us, and that on top of enjoying the most public holidays for any country, and an unproductive Carnival month on top of these.

In other words, although most people (managers included) are supposed to render eight hours of work a day, when you factor out leave and “locho” time, we probably do four hours’ productive work.

If we reduce down-time and deliver just six hours work a day (and at some time I propose to argue in favour of the six-hour work-day as being potentially more productive than eight), the economy would boom, GDP would grow and the nation would prosper even in tough times such as we face now.

And you know what? As unproductive as we are, in 2013, a Eurostat exercise that examined GDP per hour worked (per capita), ranked T&T 24th out of 65 countries listed.

Think of what we can achieve if we really apply ourselves.

What we need is for General Rowley to motivate and mobilise the workforce-army, mount a mission to save the country from implosion, call on every working citizen to do his or her duty in the national interest.

This is war. There must be no surrender to collapsing oil prices, no white flag on our economic door.

Crises, it is said, spawn opportunities, but none more so than the current one.

Herein lies the opportunity to eliminate the cancer of corruption, radically reform the work ethic, redefine the national watchword production, and stimulate the kind of patriotism we have seen in the past only when our sporting heroes have scaled global heights.

If we successfully repel this assault on the national economy as a people united, while the General might enjoy some glory, it is we the people who would be exalted.

No leader, no government, present or future, will ever take us for granted.

Our destiny is in our hands.

45 Responses to “Destiny in our hands”


  • The good old days are gone. US is now an exporter of gas and us self sufficient in oil production. Iran will soon be on the world’s market again and so this is a great opportunity for Trinidad and Tobago.

    India started the green revolution and change from a starving nation to a food surplus nation. According to Marslow hierarchy of needs food, clothing and shelter still remains the basics for human survival. If a nation can feed itself it is heading in the right direction. Outside of that “crapaud smoke your pipe”.

  • http://maorinews.com/karere/fiji/fiji006.htm

    http://rogerwilli.blogspot.com/2009/07/marginalization-of-persons-of-african.html

    My Dear Kian, Yoruba, Neal et al….PLEASE digest the two same issues fro two different countries with similar ethno-religious makeup..still believe in fairy tales & coincidences?

    • As interesting as it’s depressing. I see the Kean Gibson material figures prominently. Many thanks for these sorts of links. Our people need to wake up! And as servant of God, I mean that at many levels.

      Shalom.

    • A typical standard 3 stereotyping of an ethnic group.

  • “Before a group can enter the open society, it must first close ranks.”
    Stokely Carmichael
    Who is responsible for closing this rank, and what’s the end game people ?
    Is South Africa, Uganda, Fiji, or Sri Lanka , any better off today , now that their South Asian fellow citizens via coups, expulsions,neo genocidal-civil war conflicts , were allegedly placed in check, and if not,then why so?
    Seeing that T&T, escaped the political debacles, that was the case in Guyana- due to 2 decades of the PPP regime -what now,as Africans claim to rule the political roost, while more importantly, Indians , still plays a significant role , within the economic realm?
    Does culture matter, and if so , what the hell is African peoples culture , in both Guyana , and T&T?
    The word indigenous /natives,vis a vis ethnic minorities , were quite applicable in places such as Sri Lanka, Fiji, Uganda, and South Africa.
    Did that play a significant role , in forming a cohesive front , so as to push back against others ,who were deemed foreigners , that were encouraged to think they are superior, and so, had harmful intentions?
    It is not surprising for those of us in the know , to daily read of Indian numerical majority in our T&T,by the likes of TMan ,and similar others ,and so, we ask, why is this the case?
    Can’ water-down Africans ,’ in both Guyana , and T&T , be of any use for the struggle, and who wins , or looses , due to their presences?
    Speaking of which, does anyone know for sure what became of Anil Roberts, or the $TT 34 million, for the glorified sports program?
    We’ll need more than a few seconds on Social media , to fully explore , and or organize strategies for meaningful changes, folks.
    The book ‘World on Fire ,’ was required reading ,for yours truly , for a class I did on Political Conflicts, re my Post Grad IR Studies ,at CUNY,a few years ago. It was interesting , and or informative , and offered some fresh perspective , as to conflicts that existed amongst competing tribes ,like we have today in T&T , still struggling to live peacefully together , under their concept of Democracy .

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?174375-1/book-discussion-world-fire&start=11

    In our T&T , we have a Dr Sewlyn Ryan, who did a 3000 page Report, to explain away that Soca music , is the cause for criminality by T&T African youths.
    For that he was handsomely rewarded , by the conniving members of the tribe , as their political leaders , rushed to ‘bring in de big guns,’ – but only in Lavantille,Beetham, Mt Dor, Basilon Street, Never Dirty Morvant ,upper Gonzales, and Caranege.
    Fast forward to 2015 , and as the murder rates in Central started escalating , the braying donkeys , led by fake intellectuals / security experts,choose to place blame on rival political gerrymandering. Go figure!

    http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-03-25/ryan-crime-report-soca-music-breeding-criminals

    Again, contrast that with Chinese American Amy Chua, who used her Academic skills , and influence ,to explain away her people’s dominance, and simultaneous victimized state, globally.
    Still curious as to why Mamma Kamla , was so enamored with her East Asian , growing influential friends , the Chinese , and why pretty soon, the latter , after only a few short years in La Trinity , will join their South Asian Trini counterparts , in total control of T&T Socio Economic life – all the while ,as Africans remain obsessed , solely with holding political power, and irrespective of leaders , will repeatedly give their own folks the middle finger , while appeasing, and singing kumbaya to others?

    Whether this authors conclusions ,are right or wrong , is subject to debate , but it shows ways of trying to understand social issues, and problems , that impact negatively , one group or another.
    Did I mention , that her book, stemmed from the fact , that her Grand Mother , an ethnic Chinese , living in the Philippines for decades , was found brutally murdered at home , by -it was later revealed ,as adorable , indigenous Filipinos servants?
    There is work to be done.
    Time for the Think tanks maybe!

    Excellent stuff ,as usual , Sistaz Alyassa.
    Much appreciated.

  • “And you know what? As unproductive as we are, in 2013, a Eurostat exercise that examined GDP per hour worked (per capita), ranked T&T 24th out of 65 countries listed.”

    TNT is a blessed nation. Don Christobal did not make a mistake by naming Trinidad after the Trinity. Trinidad is the only nation in the world that holds such distinction. I still think Columbus Day should be observed and a proper landing site established.

    Trinidad future is secure despite the drop in oil and gas prices. Trinis are a giving people and repatriation money from Trinis living abroad ranks second in the Western Hemisphere. Trinidad economy ranks only second to Bahamas in the Caribbean. The reason for this is a strong manufacturing sector and low electricity prices.

    The PNM is the establishment party as such with establishment parties they like to maintain “status quo” and continue on their past successes. The PNM during its 37 year uninterrupted reign could have done more for diversifying the economy. But it is an urban based Afrocentric ideology driven party. When the UWI campus in Debe was being built it was strongly opposed by Dr.Rowley so to the Couva Children’s Hospital. Why? For the petty reason that it was being built in a UNC constituency. This is the “modus operandi” of the PNM build only in PNM areas and starve the rest. No complaints when the Point and Arima Hospital was being built… But the national patrimony belongs to all except UNC supporters must eat crumbs. That attitude must change.

    The work ethic should not surprise anyone in TNT because living near to the equator means the days are hot and laid back.

    The PNM need to work on identifying and developing tourism sites. The work done in Chagaramas with those destination sites could set the tone for tourism development across the nation. It is true that Trinidad does not have a history of a tourist based economy but that is not the point. Developing those sites is a natural outcome of a developing nation. Shamfa should be replaced or supported by someone from the Chagaramas Development Committee to identify areas for such development. The PP was doing that and there is no reason to slow down or stop it. She can look at what they were doing and continue the work.

    Sites such as the mud volcano could become a tourist site with the mineral mud being sold and people going there for mud baths. Think of the millions who have bathe in the Dead Sea. It would not take much money to do it because like all investment it will pay for itself if income generation is the goal. The pitch lake as the 7th wonder of the world and the highway to Point Fortin provides enormous potential for development. Simply selling small containers of pitch and developing good facilities for visitors to take baths and enjoy possibly a tower that can be built near the lake for a better view.

    Anyways those are some ideas for development that will assist in employment for the locals. I may share more later.

    • The PNM builds little or nothing. The whites and foreigners builds all and owns all Like HYATT to HALL OF JUSTICE (higgs and hill etc). PNM spends like we shit and when the money done like in Carenage, Diego Martin, Laverntile, Movant, Arima, Tunapuna etc they force more outta we. The bourgse in T&T all have very flat arses – they sit down way too much;PNM’s own are huge like you see whining on the TV screens for the world to see. Gypsi was the winner of Monarch but they we so blasted shame of the tune he sang they gave it to someone who sang the same thing for over 20 years. I must say though DESPERS deserved the crown in 2016. Clive Bradley and his buddy we need to recognise more….

  • FOCUS! FOCUS! Educate Your children on these issues…KNOW with WHOM you are dealing!

    http://www.trinicenter.com/more/India/invasionsandracism.htm

    • Hard core tribalism at its best. Explains why Africa is at war with itself,

    • Bless you all for the information spread thus far.

      Concerning racism in many parts of the world, it is noticeable that so called Black/African people are looked down upon, ostracized, and so on. In the particular case of India, as I read in the article it is terrible. It sounds as though the Sudras are slaves to the system and have no hope of being liberated from such conditions of treatment.

      How they are treated is somewhat comparable to the struggles of the so called African-American, the West Indian Black, and the peoples of South & Central America; it is with these particular traits that I can point them out to be the same people as they are under the same curses.

      These same curses are recorded in the Book of Deuteronomy 28 where Moses speaks to the congregation of Israel on keeping the Commandments of God. Should they obey and keep the law, statutes and commandments they will receive a multitude of blessings; however, should they break them, they will receive a multitude of curses which well perpetuate from generation to generation.

      Deu 28:1 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:
      Deu 28:2 And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.

      Deu 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
      Deu 28:16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
      Deu 28:17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
      Deu 28:18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
      Deu 28:19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.

      Their wives shall be taken as whores by their slave masters.

      Deu 28:30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.

      They shall be a proverb and byword: Negro, Nigger, Black, Afro-Trinidadian, etc

      Deu 28:37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.

      Their children shall be taken away into captivity.

      Deu 28:41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.

      They shall be so poor, they can only borrow and not lend.

      Deu 28:43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
      Deu 28:44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

      They will serve in slavery in nakedness and a yoke of iron shall be around their neck.

      Deu 28:48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

      Their captors shall be brought to enslave thee as swift as the eagle: The Romans & Europeans have an eagle as their symbol. They cared not about the old or the young.

      Deu 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
      Deu 28:50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:

      They shall be scattered to the 4 corners of the world and serve gods of wood (Cross of Christianity) and stone (Ka’aba Stone of Islam).

      Deu 28:64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

      They will go into slavery by means of Cargo Slave Ships! No man shall buy/redeem you out of this condition.

      Deu 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

      Furthermore, the system which perpetuates the ill conditions to magnify the curses have done this in mutual consent and agreement, led by a certain people.

      Psa 83:1 A Song or Psalm of Asaph. Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
      Psa 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
      Psa 83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
      Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
      Psa 83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
      Psa 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
      Psa 83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
      Psa 83:8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

      Edom = Greeks, Romans, Europeans, Khazars of Russia
      Ishmael & Hagarenes = Arabs & Muslims, Saudi Arabian Royal Family
      Moab & Ammon (children of Lot) = Palestinians
      Amalek = Romans, European Royal Families, Jewish Zionists
      Assur = Syrians

      They have conspired together to destroy the children of Israel from ancient times until present day and we see this agenda rolled out through Colonialism, Racism, Eugenics and more.

      Us Black people speaking of national pride or uplifting ourselves is deemed racist and that is only reverse-racism. All other races have pride, are together and uplift each other. However, the Israelites are stopped on all corners and aspects of society to rebuild themselves. However, this is the time The Most High is waking up his people to teach this world about righteousness and guide ALL nations to Christ.

      Isa_56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

      • Bro_Yashar:

        First of all let me welcome you to the blog. May you be well guided in your contributions, that ever more of our people may awake to the truth of who we the “Negro” are as Israelites of the seed. None of us has been given the full picture, so we must help each other along. In that light, I endorse almost all of what you say, but must take issue with some of it:

        How they (the Shudra) are treated is somewhat comparable to the struggles of the so called African-American, the West Indian Black, and the peoples of South & Central America; it is with these particular traits that I can point them out to be the same people as they are under the same curses.

        Not so fast. Maybe. Maybe not. The curses upon Israel are not unique. As shown on this blog itself, the “Negro” fulfills uniquely Deuteronomy 28:68. Therefore we are Israelite of the seed. If we are Israelite of the seed, therefore we cannot be Canaanite. Therefore whatever the curses we are suffering, they are not the curse of Noah pronounced upon Canaan (often misnomered the curse o Ham). Similarly, that the Shudra and even more so the Dalit, match some of the curses upon Israel, is not sufficient to make that identification. There are many other factors involved which must be weighed. Like Africa, India is a land of many disparate seedlines.

        Edom = Greeks, Romans, Europeans, Khazars of Russia
        Ishmael & Hagarenes = Arabs & Muslims, Saudi Arabian Royal Family
        Moab & Ammon (children of Lot) = Palestinians
        Amalek = Romans, European Royal Families, Jewish Zionists
        Assur = Syrians

        The Khazar Jews are in alliance with the Edomite Jews. But the Khazars are not Edomite by seedline. The Khazar are of the seed of Japheth through Togarmah.
        Some have claimed that the Saudi royal family are Edomite Jews by seedline. Makes no difference in the present context, but I mention it as a caveat.

        Moab and Ammon are today far-eastern orientals (China, Japan etc.). That’s a long story as I said. See this young brothers teaching on that. I think he is right on that, although I cannot vouch for all that he teaches.

        Assur and Syria are different biblically and historically. Assur today is northern Iraq, where Nineveh was. Syria is synonymous with the land of which Damascus is the capital, then and now.

        May Yeshua’s light guide us both.

        Shalom.

  • “Buddhism holds that everything is in constant flux. Thus the question is whether we are to accept change passively and be swept away by it or whether we are to take the lead and create positive changes on our own initiative. While conservatism and self-protection might be likened to winter, night, and death, the spirit of pioneering and attempting to realize ideals evokes images of spring, morning, and birth.”
    ― Daisaku Ikeda

    Listen folks, we know the problems that our society ,and world at large faces on a daily basis. Likewise , we are quite aware , of the root causes of most.
    The sad reality is ,that no amount of finger pointing, head banging, or ugly denunciation of ‘the other ,’will make any such socio- economic- com political problems disappear.
    It’s time to decide on the end game people!
    Once this is done , then let’s rise up, organize ,joint in solidarity with others ,who we sense really care , and so be a difference maker, en route to effecting authentic change .

    “To really change the world, we have to help people change the way they see things. Global betterment is a mental process, not one that requires huge sums of money or a high level of authority. Change has to be psychological. So if you want to see real change, stay persistent in educating humanity on how similar we all are than different. Don’t only strive to be the change you want to see in the world, but also help all those around you see the world through commonalities of the heart so that they would want to change with you. This is how humanity will evolve to become better. This is how you can change the world. The language of the heart is mankind’s main common language.”
    Suzy Kassem

    Ahhhh music , and is there a better tool for initiating positive energy, for a troubled soul? No se
    .

    https://youtu.be/YhAEN6MkZVk

    Luv dis song by Teddy.

    Just think of the possibilities folks , if only a few of us who have attained consciousness/ enlightenment , can likewise inveigle a few others ,to shift gears , so as to escape their own – literal/ psychological -social prisons, or climb out of the ugly ,debilitating quagmire , they feel trapped in ….?
    Well…., let’s just say , it’s a win/ win scenario for our underachieving T&T , and by extension, our Global Village ,as a whole , si?
    Luv Humanity people,and forget de tribe! Trust me when I say ,dat failure so to do, can have dire consequences.
    Life is a song worth singing….sing it!!!

    • Hi Neal,
      It’s not that i don’t want to sing Long with the ‘Kumbaya’ song, BUTTTTTTTTTTTT, it’s just….My poor, aching, vocal chords are unable continue following the same melodious tune anymore!!…These vocal chords have dried up from singing for 60 years NON-STOP (since 56)…I’m just waiting for a significant number of members from the Indian choir to pick up where i left off…THEN, after much needed rest, i’m sure i’ll be healed & ready to sing again BUTTTTTTTTTTTT. …NOT ONE SECOND BEFORE!

    • KUMBAYAAAA meh lord…..
      http://www.trinidadandtobagonews.com/forum/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=2849…KUMBAYAAAA…..

      KUMBAYA meh lordhttp://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/FIRED-FOR–RACIST-RANT-296673091.html…..KUMBAYAAAA…..

      KUMBAYA meh lord….http://jayblessed.com/2013/03/01/trini-journalist-darryl-heeralal-fired-after-racist-rant-stemming-from-sealots-accident/….KUMBAYAAAAA…sing it everybody!

        • A few men does not represent a race that has over 1,000,300,000 (1.3 billion)on this planet. Where 1 in 5 person on this planet is an Indian. So get use to us we ain’t going anywhere soon. On another note 63% of Trinidad and Tobago is NOT African. Deal with that also. The PNM up today tomorrow they will be down. So stay humble. In the mean time go eat some buss up shot with a nice curry goat and be thankful….

          • Lol…moomoo is beginning to believe his own unc propaganda…”63% of trinidad is not african….”…LOL..39% of trinidadians are CALLED africans…e.g. Tony Lee is african & chinese…no indian… but he is called “mixed”…He is African AND chinese…there is not country called mixed….there are MORE oeople of african and ‘other’ heritGe i.e. african and chinese, african and european, african and indigenous african and japanese (david abdullah)…than there are Indians or indians and other in T&T…deal with THAT…those census figures are ignorant and misleading in their classifications….BUTTTTTTTTTTTT the last census identified that of the 20odd% of mixed, less than a quarter of that figure is indian/africa heritage…to simplify moomoo…despite the racist propaganda your graparents tell you…Indians are STILL the minority in T&T, hence Kamla lost….even with FULL indian support!…Non-afrifans have a racist mentality in T&T of ‘separating’ in their minds dark skinned africans from light skinned ones a d then ‘allocating’ the light skinned one to ‘a different race’ called ‘mixed’….another painful reality for racist indians is…those ‘spanish’ as you call them that have always been the ‘blued eyed baby’ of the indian community, sort after for marriage….they are MULATTOES i.e. African,European & Indigenous…many indian men in areas like e.g. lopinot, matura etc..marry these women thinking they are not ‘african’ and with the hindu last name & straight hair they are presumed ‘indian’…but they are not…e.g. Tim Gopeesingh’s son Shane ALEONG…Tim may have believed shane’s mom was ‘chinee’ but she is in fact an Aleong (grenadian chinese africans)…all the aleongs in trinidad like many ‘chinese’ are in fact african chinese mix…when they marry into a straight haired ethnic group the children are born with stright hair and give the illsusion of NoN-african…Lol…Louie lee-sing….african chinese…though he may not want to emphasize on the african and love to identify as ‘mixed’ devoid of any loyalty to his african
            heritage.?.he is in fact african and chinese….stuart young….again…start’s father is african chinese and mother indian…you see?? The chinese were among africans for generations before indians arrived…so were the portugese (Dr. Cudjoe’s great grandmother was portugese)…Cocoa-payol is not a race…they are MULATTOES!…a typical example…Khadijah ameen…i will bet that her mother is the light skinned light eyed one…typical…Also the UNC minister Newallo-Hosein…typical…light skinned mulatto mix…see the pattern…Suzanne Mills…light skinned mulatto mother…notice how all these ‘types’ gravitate to the indian community and vice versa…this is ni coincidence! T&T’s unofficial caste system…

            Arab/European
            Chinese
            Mulatto/almost white/mix of all/wealthy indian
            Indian
            Wealthy African
            African
            EVERYBODY claws UPWARD…this ‘clawing’ keeps this system in place!

  • Luv Humanity people,and forget de tribe!

    Neal,

    As a servant of God, I have to disagree with you on this one. What you advocate is nice as far as ideology goes, but it is not scriptural. I have to support my sister Alyssa in what she is trying to do.

    But that said, I want also to be clear with my brethren as to what scripture dictates and promises.

    First of all, let us all be clear that we the “Negro” in the West are scattered Israelites of the seed. The proof in a nutshell is:

    1) we are the only people on the planet who are a match for *all* the curses of Deuteronomy 28:15-68, in particular Deuteronomy 28:68 for which we are a match and no other people on the planet are a match; it prophesied the trans-Atlantic slave trade;

    2) we are a physical match to the known physical description of the Israelites: we have dark skin and woolly hair. That excludes many people, but includes us. See depictions from the archaeological record of Israelites of the northern kingdom carried away into the Assyrian captivity ca. 720 BC, and of the southern kingdom carried into the Babylonian captivity ca. 600 BC. These people are “Negro”; and

    3) Those who call themselves “Jew” today are impostors, as was prophesied in Scripture: “… I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” (Revelation 2:9). Revelation 3:9 and Daniel 11:14 also advert to a people who would come to call themselves “Jew” when in fact they are not Israelites of the seed. It is now common knowledge that the so-called Khazar Jews are not Israelite at all; Arthur Koestler, The 13th Tribe; Schlomo Sand, The Invention of the Jewish People; etc.

    This realization that we the “Negro” are the real Israelites of Scripture, more certainly than any other people, has enormous implications… in particular for considerations of the “tribe”. The first implication is that if you are of the tribe — Israelite of the seed — you are under the strictures of the Holy Covenant, whether you know it or not, or like it or not. Scripture tells Our Story, and Our Destiny. Your belief in this or that ideology, whether afro-centrism, Buddhism, We-are-Egyptian-ology, we are Orisha people, we are gentile-Christian, or whatever else, is neither here not there.

    Yeshua said very clearly:

    “Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)

    Therefore, salvation is of the “Negro”, having cleared up the mystery as to who, today, are really the Israelites scattered out of the southern kingdom. It is us, the “Negro”. If salvation if of us, that means it is for us, and pertains to us. And most certainly, we are perhaps the only people on the planet who manifestly are in need of “salvation”.

    In case gentile Christianity has generated doubt on this matter, see also:

    “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Yeshua: for he shall save his people from their sins.” (Matthew 1:21)

    And:

    “These twelve Yeshua sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not…” (Matthew 10:5)

    …Albeit, Gentiles are free to “graft in” to the house of Jacob; Exodus 12:14, Isaiah 56:6, Ezekiel 47:22, Zechariah 8:23.

    Moreover, as the Gentile Christians emphasize:

    “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” (Matthew 24:14)

    The word shall be preached unto all nations, as indeed is being done today, for a *witness*. The Scripture is being fulfilled. That it is preached unto all nations does not take away from the fact that Yeshua — as is testified to in His very name — came to save “his” people, i.e. the sons of Jacob, and more particularly the “Negro” of the southern kingdom, — for we are the true “Jews”, — from our manifest and manifold sins.

    If that is not a tribal imperative, then I don’t know what is.

    Now, Scripture also promises that the “mystery of God” will be cleared up in due course:

    “But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.” (Revelation 10:7).

    We are getting there. Part of that mystery is to know not just who, today, are His people that He is to save from their (our) sins, but also who are the enemy that God sent against us, exactly as was prophesied:

    “The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail. Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder…” (Deuteronomy 28:43-46)

    The East Indian is fulfilling prophecy. God sent them against us, in the various lands where we were scattered. Not only the East Indian. The Edomite is that enemy. And the brahminist indo-Aryans are a major branch of the Edomite family tree. Almost everything else that is taught about the “Aryan” is obscurantist. In any case, the Edomites recognize each other. One of their terms of recognition precisely is the term, “Aryan”. (But, there are some who call themselves “Aryan” who are not Edomite at all, but are confused, just as many of us “Negro” are confused into thinking we are Egyptian; or Buddhist; a side point).

    Furthermore, we see the direct fulfillment in:

    “Yahweh shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.” (Deuteronomy 28:49-51)

    The fulfillment of that lies in brahminist hindutva, for those of us — T&T, Guyana, Fiji, Uganda, Kenya, South Africa, Mauritius, etc. — who have been thereby despoiled.

    But here is the kicker: Who is to blame? The answer is as clear as is the solution:

    “But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of Yahweh thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee…” (Deuteronomy 28:15)

    We are to blame for our own condition, because we disobeyed Yahweh our God. Nevertheless, Yeshua will redeem those of us who return unto Yahweh, and keep the Holy Covenant. That redemption too is prophesied; Deuteronomy 30:1-3, Daniel 7:18, Revelation 5:10, and all over Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Zecharian and elsewhere. Holy Scripture is a tribal story: it is OurStory, it is our past, our present, and our future. Yes, Alyssa is exactly right to help us to understand very clearly our present. My job is to help us understand very clearly our future. If we would seize the redemption that is there for the asking, God set the condition even before we crossed the Jordan:

    “And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither Yahweh thy God hath driven thee, And shalt return unto Yahweh thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; That then Yahweh thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither Yahweh thy God hath scattered thee.” (Deuteronomy 30:1-3)

    As it was in the beginning, when Israel was formed as a nation under captivity in Egypt, and Yahweh Himself rebuked Pharaoh and delivered us from captivity, so shall it be again in these latter times, as redemption draws near. Yahweh Himself will redeem us. And it is the blood of Yeshua’s sacrifice that is the propitiation for the sins of “his” people. As to the Edomites, and prime among them the brahminist hindus, they will be judged for their sins — for God hates oppression — and when that time comes, Scripture says clearly:

    “And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau (=Edom) for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for Yahweh hath spoken it.” (Obadiah 1:18)

    There is no saving the Edomites, for they literally “cannot hear” the Word; John 8:43-44. That is not what I say, that is what Yeshua said.

    In any event, prophecy is unfolding unerringly, exactly as foretold in the Book of Yahweh, as told to His servants the prophets, all of whom, every last one, was of the seed of Israel.

    “He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. He hath not dealt so with any nation…” (Psalm 147:19-20)

    This is a tribal story, our story, our lot. We cannot escape it.

    In none of this is there an invitation to hate, let us be clear:

    “Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land.” (Deuteronomy 23:7)

    But also, let us be steely-eyed and unflinching as we confront the truth of the full ugliness that has been unleashed upon us, and because of our own disobedience. Let us fall for no vain ideology or idolatry, but return unto our God, obey Him, and keep His commandments. As a people we will be redeemed, but many of us will be consigned to the lake of fire; Zechariah 13:8. The choice is ours.

    I will continue with my lot as a servant of God, which includes making intercessionary prayer, that we all of us return unto the Rock from which we were digged.

    Shalom.

    “Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the Lord: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.” (Isaiah 51:1)

    • Why do black men love white women. A white guy seeks to put a human face to this revealing question. Why do black men love Indian girls? With TNT having 22% dougla population, it is powerful question.
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIftY30lAT0

      The African experience in India.
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=58cNgvOux2I
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MTBsBoC3PeE
      It is not as bad as Yoruba makes it to be. In fact India offers a large amount of scholarships to Africans to come and study in India.

      • “With TNT having a 22% dougla population” Moomoo LIE!!

        “Doogala” is a racist, abusive term for children of dual Indian African heritage (hindu ideology)…the latest census figures reveal & expose a LIE…”mixed” means more than one ancestry…it does not ONLY refer to a SPECIFIC ‘mix’ i.e. 16% of the ‘mixed’ are NOT indian african…the term “african” in the diaspora because of slavery is somewhat of a misnomer…ALL africans in the caribbean and latin america are ‘mixed’ i.e. The enslaved africans of this HEMISPHERE were ‘mixing’ with the indigenous peoples, the portugese, the chinese and of course the colonists Loooooooong before 1845…SO…the MAJORITY of Trinidadians are of ‘mixed’ african, NON-indian heritage…BUTTTTTTTTTTTT ignorant racists like mamoo still believe they could label dark skin as afeican and ligbt skin as ‘mixed’….pseudo scientific bauble…deal with THAT!…even Dr. Rowley is ‘mixed’… (european)…The indigenius peoples didn’t disappear…they were absorbed into the enslaved african population (though not all were absorbed CULTURALLY)…do you really think that the only indigenous peoples exist in arima & santa rosa? Do you not find it strange that ALLLLL the so called indigenous peoples left are clearly MULATTOES?? They are merely the ones that remained in the stronghold, ancestral area and KEPT the CULTURE….sswhat about alllll the others that moved out of the are and lost the culture….did their blood evaporate?? African in the caribbean=mixed…SOCIALLY we are african….it is a SOCIAL construct…NOT GENETIC!…

        • You find race in everything. It is the first time I ever heard anyone say dougla is a racist term. But that is your victimology playing out for all to see.

          The Africana slave experience saw the bastardization of the African population in the Caribbean. Most don’t know their father as the seed planting male went about spreading wild oats. 60% of Jamaicans come from single parent homes.

          By your admission there are no pure Africans, they are all mixed in a calalloo of DNA that defies human logic. But that is not unusual, the African male has a special thing for women outside his race leaving the Africana female as the bearer and nurturer of his seed. In a lonely poverty stricken life that produce the next generation of killers. These kids grow up in an environment of hate….sadly.

    • ‘I stand corrected,’ Brother Yoruba Israelite. There is obviously much need for re- education on my part. Keep up the good work.
      I am almost certain that you are quite aware , that the part ahead will be difficult.
      It is however doable, and more importantly, very necessary.
      A word of caution is necessary:- Often times some things can get lost in translation, and so one finds oneself , …….?

      Well…., you get my drift,si?

      http://fakebuddhaquotes.com/believe-nothing-no-matter-where-you-read-it/

      Luv Huma… oooops ,Lo siento.

      Stay vigilant folks!

      • My brother Neal,

        Be careful with that stuff.

        God is a living God. He reveals Himself to His Chosen, not only via Scripture, but directly. When once one has had a visitation, the matters at issue no longer rest on shifting-sand cogitation such as in your link. *All* the gentile religions are man-made like that. That’s why people think that religion is like a garment: go to a store and buy what appeals to you. No. Truth is something different. No one has all the answers, except God. But what He gives is sufficient to light our path.

        In the meantime, the sad end of *all* gentile ruminations on the “ineffable” is prophesied:

        ” O Yahweh, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods?” (Jeremiah 16:19-20)

        If your forefathers made the Middle Passage, you are an Israelite, either of the seed or the house, and therefore subject to the laws and promise of the Holy Covenant that God entered into with His Chosen, the children of Israel. Note: the operative word there is Covenant, as in a formal agreement, carrying obligations and rights, both. He is holding us to it, and He certainly is keeping His word. For the prophecies associated with that Covenant have been unfolding unerringly, most especially the Middle Passage itself, pursuant to Deuteronomy 28:68.

        So, leave the gentile religions alone, including gentile Christianity (there is a lot of man-made-up stuff there too, completely at odds with the Holy Covenant), and even moreso including the clearly man-made Buddhist fantasies.

        Sorry for being so direct, but there is much at stake.

        Shalom.

        “Thus saith thy Lord Yahweh, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.” (Isaiah 51:22-23)

        • Neal:

          Here is the testimony the Angel Gabriel gave to Ezra regarding what happens after death respectively first to those who do not keep the Law, and second to those who do (I select this passage in light of Buddhist teachings about the Bardo, with which it contrasts, in particular with respect to the doctrine of reincarnation; it also contrasts with brahminist nonsense about reincarnation and dharma):

          “78 “Now a word about death: When the final sentence goes forth from the Most High that a person should die, when the spirit recedes from the body so that it may be sent again to him who gave it, the first thing is to stand in awe before the glory of the Most High. 79 If the spirit belonged to one of those who showed contempt and didn’t keep the Most High’s way, if it was one of those who despised his Law and who hates those who fear God, 80 these spirits don’t go into their dwellings but will immediately wander about in torments. They will constantly grieve and be sorrowful for seven reasons:[g]

          81 The first reason—because they despised the Law of the Most High.
          82 The second reason—because they can’t now effectively change their hearts and lives so that they might live.
          83 The third reason—because they will see the reward laid up for those who have believed the Most High’s testimonies.
          84 The fourth reason—because they will consider the torment laid up for themselves in the last days.
          85 The fifth reason—because they will see the dwelling places of others, guarded by angels in great silence.
          86 The sixth reason—because they see the torment coming upon them from now on.[h]
          87 The seventh reason, which is greater than all the previously mentioned reasons—because they will melt away in confusion and be consumed in disgrace.[i]
          “They will wither in fear when they see the glory of the Most High, before whom they sinned when they were alive and before whom they are to be judged in the last times.

          88 “The arrangement for those who kept God’s ways is this when they begin to be separated from the corruptible body.[j] 89 In the time of their exile here they labored hard to serve the Most High. Every hour they endured danger so that they might keep the Law of the lawgiver perfectly. 90 Therefore, this is the word about them: 91 First, they will see with great joy the glory of him who receives them. They will have rest on account of seven orders:

          92 The first order—because they have struggled hard to overcome the evil thought fashioned within them so that it wouldn’t lead them astray from life to death.
          93 The second order—because they see the panic in which the souls of the wicked wander and the punishment that awaits them.
          94 The third order—seeing the testimony that their maker has testified on their behalf, because when they were alive, they kept the Law that was given through faith.
          95 The fourth order—understanding the peaceful rest that they now enjoy, gathered in their resting chambers, guarded by angels in deep silence, and understanding the glory that awaits them in their last days.
          96 The fifth order—rejoicing at how they have now escaped the corruptible and how they will have a future inheritance; moreover, seeing the narrow space, full of labor, from which they have been freed, and the spacious place they are about to receive and enjoy, now that they are immortal.
          97 The sixth order—when they are shown how their face begins to shine like the sun and how they begin to be like the stars, as beings of incorruptible light.
          98 The seventh order, which is greater than all those mentioned—because they will rejoice with confidence and will trust without being disappointed and will rejoice without fear; for they hasten to see the face of him whom they served when they were alive and from whom they are about to receive a reward now that they are glorified.
          99 “This is the order of the souls of the just, as is announced immediately, and those previously mentioned are the ways of torment that those who paid no heed will suffer.””

          (2 Esdras 7:78-99)

          The fuller context may be found at the link.

          Be of no doubt that an Israelite of the seed is bound by these teachings. Contrariwise, although the Edomites of the seed may in theory also find salvation, they literally “cannot hear” the word that would bring them that salvation, and so are vessels fitted to destruction ab initio; Romans 9:22; the tares mingled with the wheat, to be gathered together and burnt only at the harvest; Matthew 13:30.

          Mamoo, duly convicted by the word of God, calls this “poison”. I didn’t write it. So his beef is with God, not me.

          Shalom.

          “Is not my word like as a fire? saith the Lord; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?” (Jeremiah 23:29)

  • “John 8:13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.”
    Here Jesus is addressing the Pharisees, they were a religious sect of Jewish identity. He goes on to tell them that you are of your father the devil. Previously, they claim to be Abraham seed.

    Yoruba interpretation—
    “There is no saving the Edomites, for they literally “cannot hear” the Word; John 8:43-44.”
    No Yoruba you are a very very poor student of the Bible. Jesus was not addressing the Edomites, he was addressing the Jewish religious leaders. Please stop trying to put a diffrent spin on Scripture. Try and learn what the context is before writing such drivel. Your judgement will be more severe.

    • As usual, you err, not knowing Scripture, nor history.

      In the same chapter:

      “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?” (John 8:33)

      The children of Israel had certainly been in bondage to Pharaoh. Later, the children of Judah went into bondage to the kingdoms of the Gentiles: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and the 4th kingdom still continuing, notably including ancient Rome; Daniel 7:23-25. That is why Yeshua’s promise is relevant to the true children of Israel:

      “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.” (Matthew 1:21)

      By the time of Yeshua’s advent, the Pharisees included Edomites of the seed, following Hyrcanus’ conversion of the Edomites. (That helps to explain why Herod, the Idumean — Greek for Edomite –, could be king of Judea, ruling over seedline Israelites, and on behalf of the Roman occupation).

      Already then, the Edomites, misnomered “Jews”, had become the power behind every kingdom, as they still are to this day. (That too was prophesied; Genesis 27:40; which is why, under Satan’s power, they can seemingly get away with theft, murder, oppression, and seemingly with impunity. Yes, but only for a set time; Daniel 7:25 again. After that, the judgment will come, and right on time; God is not slack.)

      Thus, when the ones to whom Yeshua spoke said that they were Abraham’s seed who had never been in bondage to any man, they distinguished themselves from the sons of Jacob, and identified themselves as Edomite Jews, as distinct from seedline Jews of the seed of Jacob.

      It’s simple logic. Abraham is indeed the “father of many nations” as was prophesied: the Israelites who are heir to the kingdom (Daniel 7:18), the Edomites whom God “hates” (Malachi 1:2-3) and whose ultimate end will not be a happy one (Obadiah 1:18, elsewhere), the Ishmaelites who today are at the core of the “Arab” nation and fulfilling the prophecy to Hagar that he would be a “wild man”; Genesis 16:12. Those seed of Abraham who “were never in bondage” excludes the seed of Jacob. But includes the seed of Esau (aka Edomites aka Idumeans). The Ishmaelites and others are also excluded because they did not, unlike the Edomites, become Edomite “Jews” and Pharisees. They did not do that for which God condemns Esau; Obadiah 1:11; entering into Judah’s gates as one of their despoilers. Therefore, those with whom Yeshua had this exchange are identified as Pharisees of the seed of Esau. Those who “believed on him”; John 8:31; also were present.

      Shalom.

      • You have placed a lot of emphasis on the Edomites even saying that East Indians are part of that lineage and therefore under a divine curse. I can’t argue this religious extrapolation because it is your poison and you have been blogging on it as an expert.

        However we all know what Bible Scholars believe and teach about Noah curse on one of his son “Genesis 9:20-25(NIV)
        20 Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded[a] to plant a vineyard. 21 When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. 22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father naked and told his two brothers outside. 23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it across their shoulders; then they walked in backward and covered their father’s naked body. Their faces were turned the other way so that they would not see their father naked.

        24 When Noah awoke from his wine and found out what his youngest son had done to him, 25 he said,

        “Cursed be Canaan!
        The lowest of slaves
        will he be to his brothers.”
        I have heard it said Noah’s curse produced the Africana race. A slave race and we see the effects of that curse in the expression of a high degree of victimology by Alyssa, Kian, you and Neal. Even when Africanas rule TNT for 37 years and currently in power they behave like victims. Yoruba is it Noah’s curse playing itself out in the physche of you 4 pathetic souls.

        I humbly await your answer.

        • I have heard it said Noah’s curse produced the Africana race. A slave race…

          There is no such thing as an “Africana” race.

          The *land* now known as Africa is peopled by many different seedlines of man, notably: (1) the Hamitic tribes, the seedlines of the four sons of Ham, namely Kush (Ethiopia), Mizraim (Egypt), Canaan (Palestine), and Phut (Somalia); (2) the Shemitic tribes, notably the seedlines of Abraham, namely Ishmaelite Arabs (North Africa, East Africa), Hebrew Edomites (e.g. Idoma of Nigeria, Ashanti), and Hebrew Israelites (Bantu/”Negro” tribes in general, e.g. Igbo, Lemba, Baganda, Kikongo, Yoruba (partially), Zulu (partially)); and (3) others, notably Japhethic lines that invaded through the north-east and north, e.g. Greeks, Romans, Ottoman Turks, not to mention the recent additions that came up through South Africa.

          Except for those at (3) above, all the peoples of Africa are dark-skinned. But they are different by seedline, and distinguished from each other biblically by prophetic destiny. In particular, only one seedline, the Hebrew Israelites, are the Chosen of God.

          There are dark-skinned people that populated other continents also. In particular, the Hamitic seedline of Kush are the founding race of India, hence the ancient name of Indus-Kush for the Harappan people. They were over-run by the indo-Aryans, as celebrated in the Vedic epics. Indus-Kush, as a Hamitic seedline, are distinguished from the Bantu/”Negro” people who fled into Africa after the sack of Jerusalem by Rome in 70 AD. Some Bantu/”Negro” (actually Hebrew Israelites) made it as far as the South Pacific and populated the islands of Fiji, Hawaii, the Philippines and etc. The “blacks” of Austalia are more closely related to the Kushitic lines (Tamils, Dravidians) that populated India.

          My point? There is no one “Africana” race. And not all dark-skinned people are “African”. And the Bantu/”Negro” people whom you scorn, are not of the seed of Ham, nor of his son Canaan (Palestine) upon whom the so-called “Curse of Ham” (actually Curse upon Canaan) was pronounced.

          The Bantu/”Negro” people are Israelites of the seed, the Chosen of God. Yes, we have been very much under the curses of Deuteronomy 28:15-68. That is how we were scattered to the West, and in particular T&T. Alone, among all the nations (=seedlines) of the world, we are a match for Deuteronomy 28:68, which prophesied the trans-Atlantic slave trade. But that was not fulfillment of the curse of Canaan.

          By the way, we the “Negro” also are alone, the fulfillment of Deuteronomy 28:25: “Yahweh shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies… and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.” Emphasis added. All the other people that came to the West came voluntarily, save possibly the Irish, who also in part are a branch of the Hebrew Israelite family tree. Certainly, all the other people that came to T&T came voluntarily.

          Now in addition to the curses put upon the Chosen, and in addition to the curse upon Canaan, there were curses put upon other Hamitic tribes, varying in their specificity. For example, when Pharaoh was judged, there was a curse put upon Mizraim (Egypt):

          “And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return into the land of Pathros (inner Africa), into the land of their habitation; and they shall be there a base kingdom. It shall be the basest of the kingdoms; neither shall it exalt itself any more above the nations: for I will diminish them, that they shall no more rule over the nations.” (Ezekiel 29:14-15)

          Today, Egypt is known officially as the *Arab* Republic of Egypt. It is no more the “black land” = KHAMit, of the glory of ancient Egypt. Prophecy fulfilled.

          Thus it is easy for the dark-skinned “Negro”, and the dark-skinned Hamite (various branches) to be confused under the single “curse of Ham”. But only by the ignorant, and by those wishing to pour scorn.

          The irony is that dark skin is not per se a curse, while white skin, per se, is a curse.

          “And the anger of Yahweh was kindled against them; and he departed. And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned. Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother’s womb.” (Numbers 12:9-12)

          At any rate, the destiny of the dark-skinned Hebrew Israelite, nicknamed “Negro”, Bantu and other terms that have acquired derogatory connotation; Deuteronomy 28:37; is to inherit the kingdom. Yeshua Himself is a “Negro”, with dark skin and woolly hair; Revelation 1:14-15, Daniel 7:9, 10:6. And His mission is to save “his” people; Matthew 1:21; i.e. the Hebrew Israelites from our sin.

          That is the difference between the misnomered “curse of Ham”, and the curse of the “Negro”. As God’s Chosen, we were cursed for our disobedience:

          “You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.” (Amos 3:2)

          But having been chastised, as a father would his son that he loves, we are to be raised back up to fulfill our prophetic destiny as the Chosen:

          “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.” (Exodus 19:5-6)

          Now, in the same way that Africa is a land of many seedlines, so too is India. There will indeed be many indo who are of the seed of Israel. They will know who they are if they hearken unto His word. But those who literally “cannot hear” are regrettably of their father the devil. They are up today, but their destiny too is written:

          “Thus saith Yahweh the Lord, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.” (Isaiah 51:22-23)

          Be accordingly warned.

          Shalom.

          “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (Revelation 18:4)

          “Negro” Israelites in Babylonian captivity

          “Negro” Israelites going into Assyrican captivity

          • Yoruba if you are to be true to you continuous exegesis on the genetic history of my race certainly you will humbly acknowledged that the Africana race has been the most enslaved race in human history. True to Noah’s curse.

            Arab Enslavers Practiced Genetic Warfare
            The Arab slave trade typically dealt in the sale of castrated male slaves. Black boys between the age of 8 and 12 had their scrotums and penises completely amputated to prevent them from reproducing. About six of every 10 boys  bled to death during the procedure, according to some sources, but the high price brought by eunuchs on the market made the practice profitable.
            Some men were castrated to be eunuchs in domestic service and the practice of neutering male slaves was not limited to only Black males. “The calipha in Baghdad at the beginning of the 10th Century had 7,000 black eunuchs and 4,000 white eunuchs in his palace,” writes author Ronald Segal in his 2002 book, Islam’s Black Slaves: The Other Black Diaspora.

            Arab Enslavers Targeted Women For Rape
            The eastern Arab slave trade dealt primarily with African women, maintaining a ratio of two women for each man. These women and young girls were used by Arabs and other Asians as concubines and menials.
            A Muslim slaveholder was entitled by law to the sexual enjoyment of his slave women. Filling the harems of wealthy Arabs, African women bore them a host of children.

            Arab Slave Trade Ushered in The European Slave Trade
            The Arab slave trade in the 19th century was economically tied to the European trade of Africans. New opportunities of exploitation were provided by the transatlantic slave trade and this sent Arab slavers into overdrive.
            The Portuguese (on the Swahili coast) profited directly and were responsible for a boom in the Arab trade. Meanwhile on the West African coast, the Portuguese found Muslim merchants entrenched along the African coast as far as the Bight of Benin. These European enslavers found they could make considerable amounts of gold transporting enslaved Africans from one trading post to another, along the Atlantic Coast

            While most slaves who went to the Americas could marry and have families, most of the male slaves destined for the Middle East were castrated, and most of the children born to the women were killed at birth. It is estimated that possibly as many as 11 million Africans were transported across the Atlantic (95% of which went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions. Only 5% of the slaves went to the United States).

            While Christian Reformers spearheaded the antislavery abolitionist movements in Europe and North America, and Great Britain mobilized her Navy, throughout most of the 19th Century, to intercept slave ships and set the captives free, there was no comparable opposition to slavery within the Muslim world.

            Even after Britain outlawed the slave trade in 1807 and Europe abolished the slave trade in 1815, Muslim slave traders enslaved a further 2 million Africans. This despite vigorous British Naval activity and military intervention to limit the Muslim slave trade.

            By some calculations the number of victims of the 14 centuries of Muslim slave trade could exceed 180 million. Nearly 100 years after President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in America, and 130 years after all slaves within the British Empire were set free by parliamentary decree, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, in 1962, and Mauritania in 1980, begrudgingly removed legalized slavery from their statute books. 

            And this only after international pressure was brought to bear. Today numerous international organizations document that slavery still continues in some Muslim countries.

            Reports on slavery in Sudan, Mauritania for instance needs looking into. Recently, a former slave from the Nuba Mountains of Sudan, Mende Nazer, had her autobiography: “Slave: My True Story” published. Mende Nazer was an alleged slave in Sudan. She was made famous by her transfer to England to serve a diplomatic family.

        • Mamooo,

          The main logical fallacy with your post is that there is no such thing as “the Africana race.” What you are probably getting at is Zulu, Ashanti, Ibo, Bamekele, etc, etc.

          Also, the Canaanites were a specific tribe of people who do not represent the millions of tribes in Africa, many of which are quite prosperous. In any case, let us see the legacy of the various peoples, ostensibly representing this so-called “slave race”:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2e-lfZO_CU

          Since you clearly have the disingenuous mindset of your delusional, narcissistic European colonial rulers, of course you will see the struggles of many of the dark-skinned peoples from the continent through the prism of condescension and triumphalism without fully appreciating the full geopolitical and historical picture.

          Hint: there may be a reason Mr. Gaddafi had to be removed from the picture. He wanted to introduce the gold dinar in Africa. The imperialist global north overlords could have none of that!

          https://www.rt.com/news/economy-oil-gold-libya/

          Please stick to what you know so as not to expose your ignorance…..

  • Yoruba if you are to be true to you continuous exegesis on the genetic history of my race certainly you will humbly acknowledged that the Africana race has been the most enslaved race in human history. True to Noah’s curse.

    You haven’t been paying attention. There is no “Africana” race. There is no race of 1.3 billion Indians.

    There is a seedline of Hebrew Israelites who are the Chosen of God. And there is everyone else.

    Those who are a fit to the curses of Deuteronomy 28, to the exclusion of all other peoples on the planet, are Hebrew Israelites. Therefore, they cannot also be of the seedline of Canaan.

    I have cited chapter and verse elsewhere.

    I have not read the rest of your .. er.. contribution, since you’re proceeding from an obviously false premise. In any case, I have no interest in trading barbs about irrelevancies. Do that with someone else.

    Shalom.

    “Thus saith thy Lord Yahweh, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.” (Isaiah 51:22-23)

    • Let me correct your standard 3 understanding about what I am saying. Indians are those living in India, of course they are a conglomerate of tribes. Africana are those living in Africa another conglomerate of tribes that represent the Hamatic stock. Which you fail to address as a slave race.

      • another conglomerate of tribes that represent the Hamatic stock

        Again you err, being unlearned in Scripture, moreover being unschooled in logic and the relevant science.

        When Joseph the Israelite patriarch fathered his sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, with his Egyptian wife, they were nevertheless Israelite of the seed, although mixed. DNA science today backs up the biblical teaching. They carried Joseph’s Y-DNA. And had the ability to pass it on to their own male offspring. They acquired 100% Israelite seedline identity from the father. They did not lose it because of the Egyptian mother. Follow so far?

        Nevertheless, Scripture teaches that Ephraim and Manasseh could not join the congregation of Israel. The third generation of their offspring could do so, provided they married Israelite females. It is a simple exercise in logic. See if you can work it out from this:

        “Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. The children that are begotten of them shall enter into the congregation of Yahweh in their third generation.” (Deuteronomy 23:7-8)

        The corollary is that repeated out-mixing would lead to offspring who are of the seed of Israel, but who are barred from the congregation. In fact, I am guided, hear or forebear, that after seven generations of repeated out-mixing the offspring may not claim the birthright; they lose their Israelite heritage, though of Israelite DNA. So there is a limit to repeated out-mixing. The Israelite female is the necessary means to regain full Israelite identity. Got it?

        Out-mixing is against Yahweh’s law, but with the flexibility as just described to overcome the consequences of disobedience in that regard. In the case of offspring sired with Moabite or Ammonite women, the rule was 10 generations before rejoining the congregation; 23:3. Ruth the Moabitess is in the genealogy of Yeshua, so the requirement clearly may be fulfilled in practice.

        That means that merely by sojourning in the African continent — the land of Ham originally — those of the line of Israel did not thereby become of Hamitic stock. No more so than did Ephraim and Manasseh.

        Furthermore, Scripture assures us that:

        “For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.” (Amos 9:9)

        Moreover:

        “30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

        38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.” (Matthew 13:30,38-39)

        Therefore, Yahweh and His angels are keeping meticulous track of who is who. The idea of some “conglomeration of races” is Scripturally nonsensical, as well as flawed in both science and logic.

        If you wish to be taught, it is better that you simply ask your question, rather than continuing with this puerile attempt to diminish me. You only draw attention to your own inadequacy. There is a cure for ignorance, for he who is unlearned may be taught. But he who is lacking in character remains a vexation to the spirit. You have a giant chip on the shoulder. I suggest you get rid of it.

        Shalom.

        “When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world…” (Matthew 25:31-34)

  • notice how all these ‘types’ gravitate to the indian community and vice versa…this is ni coincidence! T&T’s unofficial caste system…

    Arab/European
    Chinese
    Mulatto/almost white/mix of all/wealthy indian
    Indian
    Wealthy African
    African

    Hmmm… okay… as long as you recognize that the nickname “African” really in our case means “Negro”, which though also a nickname is more precise, considering there are six major dark-skinned seedlines in Africa, only one of which is Bantu/”Negro”. They giving us “African” to hold, as if that changes anything.

    See old map of “Negroland” within Africa.

    A better one.

    There are similar maps referring to the same area as old “Soudan”, a word derived from “sou” = land + “Yudah” = Judah.

    Specificity matters for anyone seeking after Truth. If one’s categories of thought are wrong or imprecise, one’s thinking will be muddled.

    Bantu too is a nickname, but it stands today as an accepted tribal designation within Africa, referring to the “Bantu expansion”, the huge influx of Hebrew Israelites mostly of the southern kingdom — Judah, Benjamin, Levi — fleeing from Jerusalem and Judea, ,away from the Roman conquerors ca. 70 AD, west and south into Africa, carrying on beyond the already occupied north and north-east into inner Africa, west, central and south.

    We the “Negro” were selectively kidnapped and enslaved, from king to priest to prophet to commoner, and “sold to the merchant ships”. The trans-Atlantic slave trade did not touch the Hamites — Kushites (Ethiopians), Mizraimites (Egyptians/Nubians), Canaanites, and Phutites (Somalians/Libyans). It also did not touch the Hebrew Ishmaelite Arabs, nor the Hebrew Edomites. All of these to varying degrees had a hand in our enslavement. Deuteronomy 28:68 prophesied we would be sold unto our “enemies”, and our “enemies” are listed in Psalm 83:6-8.

    Sorry. I’m allergic to euphemisms in general, and in particular when they encourage confusion rather than clarity.

    But that’s not why I write. That was a digression to get to this…

    I really wanted to say that if your caste listing is correct, there will indeed be wailing and gnashing of teeth! As Scripture promises.

    For at the coming of the kingdom, it is the Israelite=”Negro” who will rise to rule. This is part of the truth that will make us free.

    “Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.” (Matthew 13:30)

    Gentile Christianity has kept carefully hidden the real meaning of this. For Yeshua came to save “his” people; Matthew 1:21; others also, if they are “grafted in”; Ezekiel 47:22, Isaiah 56:6-7. And his people are the Chosen of God, the children of Israel, and the house of Jacob; Exodus 19:6.

    Even so, his people, hearing His word, must hearken to it, and do and keep it. Otherwise, they too will be cast into the lake of torment. See my accompanying post to Neal, about what happens to the soul after death, and the scriptural teaching that falsifies the (Buddhist and brahminist) doctrine of reincarnation.

    Shalom.

    “Thus saith thy Lord Yahweh, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.” (Isaiah 51:22-23)

    • Old “Soudan” map — covers roughly the same area as the old “Negroland” maps.

    • Another thing. Let me break down the enemies’ list:

      “They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

      5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

      6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

      7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;

      8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.” (Psalms 83:4-9)

      Edom = Indo-European, Indo-Aryan, Edomite Jew + Khazar Jew by virtue of alliance

      Ishamelites = Arabs basically, though the Ishmaelites are not the Arabs as a whole, but the core group within

      Moab = Chinese today (that’s a long story)

      Hagarenes = among the Arabs today

      Gebal = ???

      Ammon = Japanese today

      Amalek = a branch of the Edomites

      Philistines = Hamitic (African) people related to ancient Egyptians

      Tyre = Hamitic also, related to ancient Phoenicians, ancestors of the Lebanese (don’t worry about skin color, that can change; Thomas Jefferson descended from the Phoenicians)

      Assur = Shemitic line of today northern Iraq, would be among the Arabs today

      Lot’s children = Moab and Ammon = afore-mentioned far-eastern orientals (they were transported to the far east at the time of Nebuchadnezzar, became lighter in complexion in part due to mixing with north Asian Japhetic Caucasian tribes)

      The alignment with your breakdown of caste in T&T will be obvious. We’ve got to fulfill the book!

      Some will graft in among the Chosen. But as they say in the U.S. They like our jazz, but not our jizz! That’s why, without him even knowing why, Mamoo and his ilk are fixated on the meme of the “Negro” and his penchant, like Solomon, for outlandish women (strange flesh).

      That weakness, — yes it must be acknowledged, — goes back at the least to Balaam the sorcerer, who advised the Moabites on how to curse the Israelites. Every attempted curse was turned into a blessing by the Most High. But then he hit on the idea: let loose the harlots of Moab into the Israelite camp, and by fornication, the Israelites would curse themselves. It is the same today. Israelite men have a fondness for strange flesh, but neither is there any lack of such flesh on offer. They love our jazz, and our swag. And let’s face it, the men of other nations simply can’t compete in that department. Nevertheless, it is an abomination unto the Most High for us to succumb to that temptation, which is why after Solomon’s death, the kingdom was split in two. Yes. Our scattering as a people, and our sad suffering lo these last 2,000 years in large part is because of our weakness for strange flesh. May God forgive us that sin, and the many others. And thanks be to Yeshua that His sacrifice is the propitiation for all our sins before a merciful God.

      Shalom.

      “But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.” (Revelation 2:14)

      • Geneology is a subjective view of the world without regard to the idea that tribes when come in contact with each other marry and create a biracial stock. So all that you are saying must be preface by that understanding. It is said by 2050 due to inter racial marriages, Americans will most likely look East Indian with wavey hair. The mixture of African and White is producing brown, look at Haley Berry

        • most likely look East Indian with wavey hair. The mixture of African and White is producing brown,

          I don’t mean to be unkind to one as “racially” sensitive as you. Buttttt… that is the best argument against race mixing…

          You get effiminate men and women with flat posteriors.

          Race-mixing remains unlawful for Israelite and therefore “Negro” men, and especially for the Levites, the priestly tribe; Leviticus 21:14, Ezra 10:3,19.

          The irony in all this discussion is that the indo keeps repeating the meme about “Negro” men lusting after indo women. Actually the “Negro” has a problem with fornication period, and saying no when strange flesh is offered. They don’t have to go looking.

          I have a brother who once worked as a personnel manager here in T&T responsible for hiring workers, and he tells me stories of indo men prostituting their wives and daughters for a job. True story, believe it or not. But he was wise enough to turn down their offers.

          I had no such experience myself in T&T. But I remember doing business in Belgium, and women were placed on offer like party favours… blonde, brunette, take your pick. A big contract was at stake. Same in Japan, also Korea: random beautiful women invited to the business dinner, and it clearly wasn’t for their conversational ability. These were big international companies. Clearly the fact that I was “Negro” was no bar. Balaam did the same to the Israelites when he couldn’t curse them otherwise. I sowed many wild oats in my foolish youth, including inter-racially, but I knew enough not to accept *those* offers…

          Shalom.

          “But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.” (Revelation 2:14)

        • Lol…lol…Mamoo just unwittingly exposed the muti ethnic nature of the ‘east indian’ phenotype…first of all the term ‘east indian’ and inversely ‘west indian’ are essentially MIS-nomers!…i.e. ignorantly named…the term west indies came about when columbus on an expedition funded by queen isabella of spain sought out the land where white people were worshipped as gods because of their skin…INDIA…columbus ended up halfway around wpthe world in the wrong direction (caribbean) so as to rationalize his folly & wastage of crown gold, which was befitting of a beheading (his) he claimed that the region was also of India..,LIE…the indigenous peoples of the americas & caribbean are not and never were ‘indian’ they had their own nMes & distinctive culture,…hence, the people ignorantly referred to as ‘indians’ in the U.S. insist on being accurately referred to as NATIVE americans….and more specifically their ‘tribal’ names…same thing as T&T, the caribbean & the rest if the ‘americas’…!
          OH….anr there were NEVER any peoples named ‘carib’ & ‘arawak’ either… LIE!

          • As i pointed to in my previous post…’indian’ is not a race….the region called india were settled by ETHIOPIANS hence the river ‘GANGES’ is named after an ETHIOPIAN prince…looooong before the aryan invasion….no aryan would have named thwir ‘holi’ river after an ethiopian…the greeks also called India EASTERN ETHIOPIA…at that time period the phenotype of India was like Dr. Rowley’s ….it was AFTER migration of meditterranean peoples and the subsequent mix, that the term Dracidian came abbout….literally ethiopian+meditterranean zpeoples…then the Aryans Nd others came in and even in indian all these different groups that came long after the original indians exist there looking v3ry different to ‘indians’i T&T….sooooooo for mamoo to say thT european &african mix looks loke ‘indian’ is funny..

  • http://www.looptt.com/content/video-yuma-security-slammed-alleged-brutality

    Yeah folks, destiny indeed! ‘Me tink’ dat even on our cultural stage, de turf wars continues ubabated, and ain’t dis tragic?
    Now if a glorified Councillor, can be a victim,….ummmm..be beaten to a frazel… just imagine…..,hmmmmmm?
    Sing with yours truly, and ,unlike our boorish, jump and wine, soca brads, another’ Sociakly conscious- Afro -Socrates,hermano,’ si?
    Yeah Marchel, congrats on your 9th Road March!Greedy self serving bum!
    “Cuchie load from inna Netherland… Weh de grabber stink like aligator pond… mmmmmm… Deseca when de grabber hot….Scheme hot like Shabba madda pot..”
    Hey Councillor, enough with dem T&T , ravenous , self aggrandizing lawyers ,mi amigo!
    As a Political Science Major myself, I instead subscribe to a more pro active , neo feminist philosophy-“the personal is political!”
    ‘Where you at,’ moving forward? For de reord,approximately,2 months plus ,or so ago, a young , low caste, Carenage ,Afro Trini male , in de wrong place/ at de wrong time , was beaten to within an inch of his life, by equally overzealous ,T&T soldiers, & his lifeless body later found, floating in the sea.
    The results? To date , no justice,as our 3 headed Ministers of National Security,AG,DPp,Ag Commissioner of Police,&Politically constipated Forensic expert blokes, ,sits on their rear ends , twiddeling their thumbs.
    Yep,de same Gangreen -Tethron guys, dat still clueless Kamla, wish to give Powers of arrest, as her ,political party,and idiot benefactors,main contribution ,to solving our escalating crime woes
    Fast forward to this Carnival fiasco, and you almost lost your life.
    If memory serve me right, our PM Dr K, likewise, almost lost his personal/ political life, for having de audacity , to wine in a Southern ‘Indian band ,’one year ago, on a poxy face, semi pretty, 17 year old, dat looked closer to 38 . Go figure!
    I luv dis land,Y tu?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DExQPYxiI5DU&ved=0ahUKEwirtvKeruzKAhVG9x4KHVgJBAUQuAIIIzAC&usg=AFQjCNF1OTW30w3mdkV5GqMYTtYDxg1KPw

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