For 2 people that are on the same side we seem to be butting heads. I guess thats the human qulity of diversity and to each his own as long as we do no harm and mantain our civility. If you want to prove a point I suggest you come out and say it and not talk around it, leave the pholosphy for those with down time to ponder while they forget to live, be constructive and feel alive. Its this lack of construction that has us were we are, and those who become constructive and join the main stream are branded. Those that are paraded, like animals, in the ring in front of the whole world, to see them jump high, kill each other etc., or those on TV with guns shooting each other, dealig drugs are our idols. Where is the logic or practicality in this?